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Julius Caesar was assassinated for wearing red boots. Barrack Obama was lambasted for wearing a tan suit. Purple is associated with royalty, white is associated with clergy, and gold is associated with superiority. Red and Blue have powerful meanings in America, and so does Green. Which colour is the most political in your opinion?

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[-] 24_at_the_withers@lemmy.world 32 points 1 week ago

77% of national flags contain red.

...Which is a bit disturbing because it is generally used to refer to bloodshed or might in battle - partially in a "let's honor the past" sort of way, but mostly in a "don't fuck with us" sort of way.

[-] SomethingBurger@jlai.lu 17 points 1 week ago

Fun fact: the flag of Jamaica is the only country flag which has neither red, white or blue.

[-] BackOnMyBS@lemmy.autism.place 9 points 1 week ago

During the Golden Age of Piracy, pirates would fly a red flag to communicate no quarter. That meant that if anyone decided to fight back would be killed because they were not taking prisoners.

Imagine being a miserable English sailor months from home, broke af, and hungry, when you're out in the ocean about to head back and you see this pulling up:

☠️ TIME TO MOTHERFUCKIN DIE ☠️

[-] Chozo@fedia.io 3 points 1 week ago

On the flip side, red is also commonly used to represent love and passion.

[-] ambitious_bones@lemmy.world 24 points 1 week ago

Red. It is used and associated with countless movements, flags, banners, all across the political spectrum.

[-] jeffw@lemmy.world 15 points 1 week ago

Purple is probably the only one that I’m aware of on your list where there’s a legit logic behind it, since dyes used to be harder to come by

[-] dragonfucker@lemmy.nz 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Drag thinks maybe there's a historical reason why white is associated with purity and black with sin, and it ain't because of the price of dye.

EDIT: Drag just wants to talk about colours, not have to defend drag's identity!

[-] jeffw@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago
[-] TheOctonaut@mander.xyz 22 points 1 week ago

This guy's gimmick is to speak about himself in the third person. You can safely block him.

[-] dragonfucker@lemmy.nz 6 points 1 week ago

Drag does not identify as a guy and drag does not use he/him/himself pronouns. Drag would appreciate not being so blatantly misgendered.

[-] HootinNHollerin@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago

Why not just say I ? It doesn’t make sense to go 3rd person

[-] deadbeef79000@lemmy.nz 9 points 1 week ago

Did you just assume drag's person? /Jk

It doesn’t make sense to go 3rd person

It does if one wants to be really annoying.

[-] HootinNHollerin@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Mongo only pawn in game of life

[-] dragonfucker@lemmy.nz 2 points 1 week ago

Drag's pronouns are not about you. Drag apologises for the confusion.

[-] otp@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 week ago

Someone is taking the "I don't use pronouns" thing to the most literal extreme.

[-] HootinNHollerin@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

That’s what makes me think (hope) it’s a troll. Easily the most obnoxious annoying person on lemmy (maybe minus hexbear psychos)

[-] dragonfucker@lemmy.nz 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Drag is not going third person. Drag is using first person neopronouns. Drag is happy to teach you about grammar structures you're unfamiliar with. Drag prefers drag's pronouns over gender neutral pronouns like "I" because drag's gender is not neutral.

In Japan, there are multiple first person pronouns depending on the speaker's identity and indeed the specifics of their current social situation. Like watashi, boku, and ore. Drag is doing that.

[-] Susaga@sh.itjust.works 13 points 1 week ago

Also in Japan, if someone refers to themself with their own name, that's seen as childish or arrogant.

If your first person pronoun is the same as someone referring to you in third person, then you are referring to yourself in third person every time you refer to yourself in first person. And since the idea of a first person neopronoun is exceedingly rare, most people will only think of you as speaking in the third person.

[-] dragonfucker@lemmy.nz 2 points 1 week ago

Drag is not referring to dragself by drag's name. Drag is referring dragself by the pronoun "drag", while drag's name is Dragon "Rider". Drag would like to remind you that drag's name is perfectly visible on your screen and you can read it whenever you like, so you don't need drag's help to know what drag's name is.

[-] Susaga@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 week ago

You refer to yourself as "Drag", which I understand is short for "Dragon". And given your proclivities towards dragons, I have to assume this is intentional. So, yes, you are referring to yourself by your name, or at least a nickname.

[-] dragonfucker@lemmy.nz 2 points 1 week ago

Is drag to understand that your position is that pronouns cannot sound similar to the names of the people who have them?

Somebody should tell Sheila and Hector they need to change their pronouns, then.

[-] TheOctonaut@mander.xyz 8 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

The problem is that you don't know what a pronoun is. You should try writing a sentence with common pronouns first and see if your sentence makes any grammatical sense. For instance "is to understand that..." doesn't work, because "is me/I to understand" doesn't work. You would instead say "Am drag to understand", which while sounding a bit odd is at least actually writing in English.

[-] dragonfucker@lemmy.nz 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Quit arguing with drag about drag's pronouns. Drag doesn't want to justify dragself.

[-] Susaga@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 week ago

There are people named Yuu, Mi and Ai. However:

  • They likely didn't choose their name.
  • Their name only matches ONE pronoun they use, not ALL of a given person.
  • Their first person and third person pronouns aren't the same.

Think of the line "I am Gandalf, and Gandalf means me." Ai would say "I am Ai, and Ai means me", which sounds odd but hey ho. You would say "Drag is Drag, and Drag means drag", which is borderline nonsense.

[-] dragonfucker@lemmy.nz 1 points 1 week ago

No, drag would say drag is Dragon "Rider", and dragonfucker means drag.

Drag is tired of listening to you being wrong about drag's identity. Don't you have to go be silly somewhere else?

[-] otp@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 week ago

[...]Hector they need to change their pronouns, then.

Yes, Hee-ctor

[-] dragonfucker@lemmy.nz 2 points 1 week ago

Okay, how about He-Man? Is He-Man not allowed to use he/him pronouns?

[-] otp@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 week ago

Lmao...now I'm picturing He-Man talking like a caveman by replacing all of his personal pronouns with "He-Man"...but not conjugating the verbs as if he were speaking in the third-person.

He-man have the power!

Love it!

[-] dragonfucker@lemmy.nz 1 points 1 week ago

That would be very different to drag's pronouns, because drag uses drag/dragself pronouns.

[-] otp@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 week ago

But you did conjugate your verbs that way

[-] dragonfucker@lemmy.nz 1 points 1 week ago

No, drag has conjugated verbs relating to drag's pronouns like this.

[-] otp@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 week ago

Not every time! Haha

[-] HonouraryDragon@lemmy.nz 2 points 1 week ago
[-] Susaga@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 week ago

Yes, but I don't see how that's relevant here.

[-] HonouraryDragon@lemmy.nz 2 points 1 week ago

Your idiocy was on full display when you couldn't tell the difference between a name and a pronoun.

[-] otp@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 week ago

Lmao..."Drag", after it being revealed that the user is using it to refer to themself, looks like a short form of "Dragon", which is part of their username.

A shortened form of a nickname can be referred to as a "name".

But now it seems like they're calling it a pronoun.

There's no idiocy involved in not speaking OP's language.

[-] B312@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago

People like you are the reason I used to be so right wing

[-] HootinNHollerin@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I think you’re desperately seeking attention or a right wing troll because you’re the most annoying person on lemmy

[-] KaTaRaNaGa@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

“I don’t feel that I need to explain my art to you, Warren.”

[-] HootinNHollerin@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Holy shit it’s Mongo

[-] j4k3@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago

Black has the most universal meaning of solidarity, seriousness, mourning, and formality across cultures and peoples.

[-] massive_bereavement@fedia.io 6 points 1 week ago

Japanese budhist monks use black for their clothes as it simbolizes purity, or as black being the most pure color. In very few instances, they may wear purple or gold, but that's due status and a latter addition.

In a funeral, only the deceased would wear white, I don't remember why though, but for a while wearing white was in bad taste.

Wearing all black is also common for the Catholic clergy, and for a long time most brides used black for their wedding dress: https://kentuckykindredgenealogy.com/2014/12/13/history-of-the-black-wedding-dress/

[-] sharkfucker420@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 week ago

Probably purple because of how historically inaccessible it was

[-] AbouBenAdhem@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Not a single color, but in Chinese tradition there were five colors of equal political significance corresponding to the Wuxing cycle of changes—black, red, cyan, white, and yellow. Each dynasty was associated with a color (with other associated traits), and was expected to be followed by one of two other colors (depending on whether the succession would be orderly or revolutionary).

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