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[-] earlgrey0@sh.itjust.works 16 points 2 months ago

Huh, that explains the 4B movement in S. Korea.

[-] GarbageShootAlt2@lemmy.ml 9 points 2 months ago

4B can be described as some kind of feminist, but it's also extremely reactionary.

[-] kautau@lemmy.world 10 points 2 months ago

Do shitty things for years in the pressure cooker until the pressure reaches it's peak, get an explosive reaction.

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[-] kittenzrulz123 16 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

As a Transfem, it's because conservatives suck (granted I despise all forms of liberalism).

Also why the hell is liberalism considered "left-wing" its center right at most.

[-] dessalines@lemmy.ml 12 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Political education in the US and many of the countries that hold these polls is awful. I'd trust a middle-schooler from Cuba, Vietnam, or China more than an ivy-league-educated polysci graduate when it comes to political awareness.

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[-] muntedcrocodile@lemm.ee 16 points 2 months ago

Is anyone brave enough to ask why?

[-] Tinidril@midwest.social 13 points 2 months ago

Fascism is sociologically rooted in the sexual insecurity of men. That's why it's always men driving it.

[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 16 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Fascism is Capitalism in decline. Masculinity is a recognized part of fascism, but fascism is rooted in Capitalist decay, not in moral failures of men.

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[-] stupidcasey@lemmy.world 10 points 2 months ago

The answer is simple the media is radicalizing people and gender is one of their primary motivations it is hand tailored to divide and conquer minds.

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[-] bountygiver@lemmy.ml 10 points 2 months ago

to the privileged, equality is oppression. And therefore more pushback to maintain the status quo

[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 10 points 2 months ago

Rapid increases in the productive forces of South Korea has resulted in a progressive population of women and a hyper-reactionary population of men, the increase in productive forces was so rapid it caused a hyper-sharpening of contradictions with tradition.

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[-] Fontasia@feddit.nl 15 points 2 months ago

Hey look if you start taking away white male privilege they freak out when they find out people of other races, genders and creeds are better than them, who knew?

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[-] ICastFist@programming.dev 14 points 2 months ago

Sauce, for those interested - https://www.ft.com/content/29fd9b5c-2f35-41bf-9d4c-994db4e12998

In the US, Gallup data shows that after decades where the sexes were each spread roughly equally across liberal and conservative world views, women aged 18 to 30 are now 30 percentage points more liberal than their male contemporaries. That gap took just six years to open up.

So it might be worth taking it with a pinch of salt because I'm betting it's using the very dumbed down "liberal vs conservative" 'murican political view. Maybe skew all results down 3-6 points.

[-] Nexy@lemmy.sdf.org 14 points 2 months ago

That's why there are so many incels conservatives and more lesbians, the numbers talks from themselves.

[-] eestileib@sh.itjust.works 15 points 2 months ago

Sounds like the women did better advance planning if they're still getting laid.

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[-] okamiueru@lemmy.world 13 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

I believe that a significant factor for this can be attributed to mental development and maturity of boys lagging behind that of girls of the same age, during formative years. And, please read on, if you assume my argument is "boys dumb, conservatives dumb. Q.E.D."

The second factor is an education system where this offset in mental development/maturity is further confounded. Boys don't typically do as well, because sitting idle and being a "good boy", is more challenging. This leads to a path for boys to start working earlier, while girls get higher degrees. (I assume the trends for higher education by gender, to be similar, if not, then that can falsify this hypothesis).

What a person then observes they get from society, vs what you pay in terms of taxes, is skewed between these two groups, and highly correlated with gender.

If this hypothesis has any validity to to it, then one could argue that a way to mitigate this is by correcting the negative causes. Where the fundamental root cause might be improved by revisiting how education is failing boys in particular.

The challenge with this is that if the conservative parties' policies are driven by what can make more people vote conservative, then this will be a negative feedback loop. The worse you make it for a certain group of people that vote for you, the more that group is willing to vote for you.

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[-] HexesofVexes@lemmy.world 10 points 2 months ago

So here's the question - is the scale consistent over time? That is, do we consider the same ideas left/right wing in 202x as we did in 199x?

Let's assume it is. We're seeing men lean towards the center/right, and a lot of people are asking why. The trouble is, the answer isn't one people like to hear - in our headlong pursuit of equity, we're introducing a lot of inequality. You lift the ladies up, while you let the men climb - all based on the assumption that the women had further to climb so what you're doing is levelling the field.

Countering this is a sympathetic voice, one offering to bring back equality or offer a different kind of equity. Casting gender equity as a zero sum game, and pushing for equality aimed at the ones not being lifted up.

I often hear the "uneducated men" argument, but that's just an ugly echo from the past serving those it once oppressed in a bitter irony. The reality is that even educated people can fall for propaganda. Especially when voting in what they see as their own self interest.

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[-] Adderbox76@lemmy.ca 10 points 2 months ago

The good news is that almost universally, women vote in greater numbers than me. So on average its still breaking to the left.

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[-] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 9 points 2 months ago

Prolly because you are poor

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