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[-] sirico@feddit.uk 79 points 1 month ago

Can't be infected if I keep wiping my partition for a new shiny distro

[-] db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 43 points 1 month ago

Your install USB is infected by a rookit and reinstalls itself on connect.

[-] NiHaDuncan@lemmy.world 29 points 1 month ago

Jokes on you, the rootkit is likely my own and I just forgot about it.

[-] db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 27 points 1 month ago

It's tough being an ADHD Hacker

[-] saddlebag@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

This was my first thought. I haven’t had the same os installed for a few months max, nevermind 3 years

[-] CyberSeeker@discuss.tchncs.de 77 points 1 month ago

Shouldn’t be this hard to find out the attack vector.

Buried deep, deep in their writeup:

RocketMQ servers

  • CVE-2021-4043 (Polkit)
  • CVE-2023-33246

I’m sure if you’re running other insecure, public facing web servers with bad configs, the actor could exploit that too, but they didn’t provide any evidence of this happening in the wild (no threat group TTPs for initial access), so pure FUD to try to sell their security product.

Unfortunately, Ars mostly just restated verbatim what was provided by the security vendor Aqua Nautilus.

[-] nyan@lemmy.cafe 16 points 1 month ago

There's also a buried reference to using a several-years-patched gpac bug to gain root access before this thing can do most of its stealth stuff.

Basically, it needs your system to already have a known, unpatched RCE bug before it can get a foothold, and if you've got one of those you have problems that go way beyond stealth crypto miners stealing electricity.

[-] Buffalox@lemmy.world 75 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

This story reeks of FUD.

exploiting more than 20,000 common misconfigurations, a capability that may make millions of machines connected to the Internet potential targets,

Because a "common misconfiguration" will absolutely make your system vulnerable!?!
OK show just ONE!

This is FUD to either prevent people from using Linux, or simply a hoax to get attention, or maybe to make you think you need additional security software.

[-] whyNotSquirrel@sh.itjust.works 30 points 1 month ago

Crowd strike looking for a new market?

[-] ITeeTechMonkey@lemmy.world 24 points 1 month ago
[-] cron@feddit.org 3 points 1 month ago

ssh with an easy to guess root password?

[-] Buffalox@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Wouldn't that simply be a user mistake?
It's kind of like saying if you remove the password completely, it's vulnerable.

[-] blibla@slrpnk.net 2 points 1 month ago
[-] Agent641@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

Fear, uncertainty and doubt

[-] zante@lemmy.wtf 43 points 1 month ago

No mention of transmission methods as far as I understand the article

[-] Buffalox@lemmy.world 53 points 1 month ago

The whole thing sounds fishy. Like it's trying to convince people Linux is inherently vulnerable.

exploiting more than 20,000 common misconfigurations

Like WTF?

[-] nyan@lemmy.cafe 2 points 1 month ago

It's kind of an iffy assertion. That's maybe the number of files it scans looking for misconfigurations it can exploit, but I'd bet there's a lot of overlap in the potential contents of those files (either because of cascading configurations, or because they're looking for the same file in slightly different places to mitigate distro differences). So the number of possible exploits is likely far fewer.

[-] Buffalox@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

maybe the number of files it scans looking for misconfigurations

So how did it get into the system to be able to scan configuration files?

[-] nyan@lemmy.cafe 4 points 1 month ago

Separate remote code execution vulnerability in unupdated versions of RocketMQ, a Chinese-developed messaging/streaming server, in the case of the infection described in the article. It's possible that there are a few other RCE vulns it can make use of, but 20000 of them seems unlikely.

[-] JohnnyCanuck@lemmy.ca 10 points 1 month ago

They have an "attack flow" diagram that seems to indicate a hacker installing it directly through a known vulnerability.

[-] luciddaemon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 37 points 1 month ago

Seeing the diagram, it only attacks servers with misconfigured rocketMQ or CVE-2023-33426, which is already patched. Am I understanding this correctly?

[-] cron@feddit.org 11 points 1 month ago

It probably has a large database of exploits it can use. The article claims 20k, but this seems to high for me.

[-] li10@feddit.uk 14 points 1 month ago

Sounds like it should at least be noticeable if you monitor resource usage?

[-] Pantsofmagic@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago

That's how some people found it, but it would disappear when someone would login to investigate.

[-] li10@feddit.uk 9 points 1 month ago

Sure, but it’s still fairly detectable when it’s on a server at least, as long as you have monitoring. Just a bitch to pinpoint and fix.

[-] cron@feddit.org 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Yes, but they replace common tools like top or lsof with manipulated versions. This might at least trick less experienced sysadmins.

Edit: Some found out about the vulnerability by ressource alerts. Probably very easy in a virtualized environment. The malware can't fool the hypervisor ;)

[-] li10@feddit.uk 4 points 1 month ago

Not quite the monitoring I’m talking about though.

Basically, it seems like this would be a nightmare for a home user to detect, but a company is probably gonna pick up on this quite quickly with snmp monitoring (unless it somehow does something to that).

[-] linearchaos@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Vulnerable to 20,000 misconfigurations, But thearted by 42 billion different simple checks that we all do anyway.

5 minute load greater than 80% of the number of cores? That's an alarm.....

[-] JoShmoe@ani.social 5 points 1 month ago

Millions of systems shut down by dumb microsoft os.

[-] sunbeam60@lemmy.one 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Luckily I sit right next to my home server and can hear when the fans kick in under load. The absence of noise tells me I don’t have this problem :)

[-] misk@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 month ago

Mine is ultra low voltage and I barely maintain it so this article gave me a bit of a scare. I’ll probably wipe it by the next reinstall anyway since it’s been nearly 10 years of Ubuntu LTS upgrades and it’s a mess (both what I’ve done to it and what Ubuntu has done to itself).

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