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[-] Seraph@fedia.io 66 points 2 weeks ago

Science is indistinguishable from magic, if you don't care to learn how science works.

[-] lugal@sopuli.xyz 22 points 2 weeks ago
[-] Dicska@lemmy.world 16 points 2 weeks ago

But... if there's a consistent system along which magic works which can be studied/researched/formulated, then isn't it just... science?

[-] umbrella@lemmy.ml 13 points 2 weeks ago

nobody is convincing me assembly programming isnt magic

[-] Malfeasant@lemm.ee 5 points 2 weeks ago

Study a 6502. It's just electrons doing the only thing they can.

[-] umbrella@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 weeks ago

whats the best way to start?

[-] Malfeasant@lemm.ee 2 points 2 weeks ago

I don't know about the best (because I started back in the 80s with a commodore 64, not exactly repeatable) but a good way is this guy: https://eater.net/6502

[-] djsoren19@yiffit.net 4 points 2 weeks ago

The keyword is consistent. Some settings have magic as inherently chaotic and difficult to control.

A good rule of thumb is that if a fantasy setting has a school for magic, it's probably a science. If it's knowledge passed from master to magically gifted student, it's probably not very consistent.

[-] deadbeef79000@lemmy.nz 3 points 2 weeks ago
[-] kamenlady@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

Watch "Agatha all Along" - the series is managing to answer exactly this question with a great script and cast.

/s

[-] lugal@sopuli.xyz 1 points 2 weeks ago

That's not how magic works

[-] fsxylo@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 weeks ago

magic works

Humans have yet to prove it.

[-] lugal@sopuli.xyz 2 points 2 weeks ago

Well, it sometimes does

[-] ByteOnBikes@slrpnk.net 6 points 2 weeks ago

I absolutely feel like in a thousand years, we'll talk to a machine and not even know how it works.

Hell, I look at the computer in front of me and only feel like I know a fraction of what's going on.

[-] CheesyGordita@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago

Hail the Omnissiah!

[-] BlackPenguins@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

That's what neural networks are now. We do not know how it works under the hood. We just feed it training data.

[-] bus_factor@lemmy.world 15 points 2 weeks ago

We know how it works, but we can't explain exactly how it got to the answers.

[-] LillyPip@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 weeks ago

We do, though.

Just to make sure my understanding was accurate, I asked Gemini to critique my explanation:

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Unless it’s lying to me about itself, I was able to explain the basics of it in two relatively simple sentences. Of course that doesn’t cover everything, but Gemini thinks that’s a pretty good overview. After expanding on each point in its reply, it said this:

I think a lot of the confusion over these models stems from hype and marketing that makes them out to be more than what they are.

[-] Etienne_Dahu@jlai.lu 1 points 2 weeks ago

Magnets, how do they work?

[-] merc@sh.itjust.works 36 points 2 weeks ago

I just love how the conspiracies reinforce each-other in the most convenient ways.

"Anyone who doesn't get vaxed is going to be put in a FIMA concentration camp!"

"What? That's crazy, where's the evidence of that?!"

"You can't find it because they're censoring everything on the Internet."

So now, not finding evidence of conspiracy 1 is evidence for conspiracy 2!

[-] edgemaster72@lemmy.world 17 points 2 weeks ago

I don't believe a lot of conspiracy theories, but I do have some conspiracy hypotheses

[-] LemmyKnowsBest@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago

I have conspiracy speculations

[-] kusari 3 points 2 weeks ago

I have conspiracy guestimations

[-] LemmyKnowsBest@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

Sometimes when I'm alone I have conspiracy masturbations

[-] kusari 1 points 2 weeks ago

When you are at the Diddy party and you have a conspiracy ejaculation:

[-] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 15 points 2 weeks ago

Also: when conspiracy theories are convenient ways to avoid havig to understand how things work.

[-] LillyPip@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

And this a very common mindset, because most societies (some more than others) take children’s* innate curiosity and pound it flat for the sake of efficiency by way of standardisation. It really is a shame, since we waste a lot of potential as a species this way.

e: a word

[-] lugal@sopuli.xyz 11 points 2 weeks ago

That's what they want you to believe!

[-] lath@lemmy.world 8 points 2 weeks ago

It's only a conspiracy theory if it's not a proven conspiracy.

[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago

Its only a conspiracy theory if its more than one guy.

[-] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 6 points 2 weeks ago
[-] lugal@sopuli.xyz 7 points 2 weeks ago

Not a native speaker but "guy" is gender neutral for a while now, at least on the variety used online. At least from what I know

[-] ByteOnBikes@slrpnk.net 7 points 2 weeks ago

Litmus test is the "Would you have sex with a group of guys?"

If you're picturing a orgy with hairy people holding shlongs, then it's not gender neutral.

[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago

Litmus test is the “Would you have sex with a group of guys?”

Dipping the tip into a group of guys and checking the color.

[-] merc@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 weeks ago

"Guy" is used differently in different contexts, just like "girl".

If someone says "the girls had a sleepover" you know they're probably talking about female children. If someone's talking about a girls' night out, you know they're almost certainly talking about women.

"Would you have sex with a group of guys?” is using guy as a stand-in for man. But, if someone said "Guys, can we all just quiet down for a second so Stan can speak?" it's a synonym for "folks" or "people" or something gender-neutral.

[-] CarbonatedPastaSauce@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

You are correct but you can't get away from pedants online.

I know because I'm one of them.

[-] anarchrist@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 2 weeks ago

Well then you're not my friend, guy.

[-] deadbeef79000@lemmy.nz 5 points 2 weeks ago

He's not your guy buddy!

[-] Katana314@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago

Throwing a line from Hitman in the mix to make it more confusing:

“If it looks like a conspiracy, it probably isn’t.”

[-] lustyargonian@lemm.ee 1 points 2 weeks ago

Why does it look like that then? Tananananana 🎵

[-] Panurge987@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago

I'm just glad to see "whoa" spelled correctly.

[-] masterofn001@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 weeks ago

Conversely, everything is a conspiracy when you do understand how things work.

[-] yboutros@infosec.pub 3 points 2 weeks ago

Underrated comment

Everyone's conspiring folks. What's hard to measure, is who's conspiring

[-] LillyPip@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 weeks ago

It’s important to understand the prevalence of coincidence and incompetence. Humans are exceptional at pattern-finding – too good, really. In order to think critically, we need to recognise our own tendency to find patterns where none exist.

[-] SuperApples@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago

Good use of Keanu meme, as he recently fell for and is promoting a conspiracy theory (ancient civilizations).

[-] bizarrocullen@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago

Wrong use of meme

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