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submitted 9 months ago by Kain1@lemmy.world to c/retrogaming@lemmy.world

Naoki Yoshida, known as Yoshi-P and the director of Final Fantasy 14, has expressed skepticism about the feasibility of remaking Final Fantasy 9 as a single title.

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[-] altima_neo@lemmy.zip 58 points 9 months ago

Because it's just not possible to make fully featured games anymore? Everything's gotta be bite sized chunks for full price.

[-] otp@sh.itjust.works 24 points 9 months ago

The FF7 Remake games have a lot more content than the respective parts of the original

[-] sigmaklimgrindset@sopuli.xyz 38 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

And it honestly breaks the flow of the story sometimes compared to the original. Rebirth's added content felt like busywork at times to make it seem like a bigger game than it actually is.

The Honeybee sequence in Remake is peak tho, and I'll fight anyone that says otherwise.

[-] iAmTheTot@sh.itjust.works 13 points 9 months ago

Personally I've loved how much they have fleshed everything out. Like, Johnny was such a completely missable, non consequential character in the original and now he's a prominent side character. Just one example of many where they've taken a small part of the original and they have added a ton of context or fleshed out content around it.

A lot of the stuff is optional too, which I think strikes a solid balance. If you don't like the content and find it busy work, you don't have to do it. If you do like it, it's there for you to enjoy.

[-] sigmaklimgrindset@sopuli.xyz 11 points 9 months ago

I'm usually with you on the "skip the quests you don't like", but it really doesn't feel like an option for this series. Each of the remake games are priced at $70USD and it's not even a full story, technically speaking.

It feels really bad to not do side content, because it feels like you're not getting your "money's worth" psychologically. But the side content varies so much in quality depending on the chapter that the game just feels like a drag. It especially sucks because the OG FF7 is such a well paced story IMO, with a good balance of action/plot vs silly downtime.

[-] SkyNTP@lemmy.ml 8 points 9 months ago

OG had three CD's, three major acts, across a pretty epic journey. Breaking it up into three parts is really not that surprising.

Personally, I love the expanded development of characters like Jessie.

[-] sigmaklimgrindset@sopuli.xyz 9 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

I don't mind the expanding in Remake as much as Rebirth tbh. Remake's does expand a lot of side character's, but they feel relevant to the story. Marlene, Avalanche trio, hell Yuffie's little side story, they're all good additions. EDIT: ALSO Wall Market! Best addition by far.

Rebirth is where I think it went off the rails a bit. The game really feels unfocused with a lot of the side quests, and it really drags a bit until you get to the last quarter of the game.

Maybe it'll feel better to revisit once we have the entire trilogy. But man, paying $70/ to play Rebirth feels a bit bad when it came out at the same time as the new Yakuza and Persona remake priced at the same point.

[-] BlackAura@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago

You know what's fascinating about that?

I'm pretty sure that every CD had the entire game and all the art assets for every town / place you could enter on the world map. Every enemy. All the music.

The only difference between each CD was the FMV cutscenes contained on them.

At least that was the story / rumor at the time. For optimization they could have reduced the art assets and music to only areas you could enter at that point in the game, and only enemy models you would see, but supposedly that wasn't the case.

[-] aeronmelon@lemmy.world 39 points 9 months ago

Every one is mad because they’re greedily milking reruns and I’m just laughing because they clean skipped over FF8.

[-] RQG@lemmy.world 20 points 9 months ago

They know you can't improve on a master piece.

[-] Asafum@feddit.nl 28 points 9 months ago

"Volume and Complexity: Yoshi-P noted that Final Fantasy 9 is a game with significant volume, encompassing various kingdoms, environments, and story elements. This complexity makes it challenging to fit into a single remake without substantial expansion and enhancement of its world."

Because Lord knows there was never a time when we had multiple disks for a large game.

Go fuck yourself greedy fucking assholes... I'm sure they'll pull some PS5 exclusive first bullshit too so they can milk every last cent possible...

[-] MrScottyTay@sh.itjust.works 4 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

It's not about amount of discs. It's about dev time. If it was one whole game they'd not only bloat the budget to dangerous levels, it'd likely be outdated by the time it's finished and will either need to redo large parts of the game so it looks modern or release a game that looks like it should've released 5+ years ago.

Imagine if FFVII didn't split up it's remake, not only would we not have any of it right now. When the third part comes out it'll all just look like a PS4 game on a PS6.

If you want to argue whether or not they should go balls to wall that requires them to make a series of games so large is infeasible as a single entry, and do something a bit more budget friendly like the original, then fair enough. But then it'd just be a remaster or something not that far removed.

[-] DoucheBagMcSwag@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 9 months ago

I don't think so on the PS5 exclusivity. SE said that it did not pay off in sales for XVI and I believe they said they weren't doing that again

[-] De_Narm@lemmy.world 21 points 9 months ago

Because people liked the idea so much with FF7? /s

[-] Baggie@lemmy.zip 11 points 9 months ago
[-] missingno@fedia.io 9 points 9 months ago

Given that SE doesn't seem to want to be at all faithful with their remakes, 8 actually makes the most sense as a game they can and should make big changes to.

[-] Vesker@lemm.ee 3 points 9 months ago

How dare you. FFVIII is a flawless game with a perfectly straightforward story and plot and limited grind.

Now if you'll excuse me, I have a sorceress to defeat, right after I optimally junction all of my GFs.

Chicken wuss.

[-] SplashJackson@lemmy.ca 11 points 9 months ago

Oh not this shit again

[-] sigmaklimgrindset@sopuli.xyz 11 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Jumping rope about to be a whole chapter LET'S GOOOOOO /s

[-] xyzzy@lemm.ee 10 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

To be fair, there's never been a time when Final Fantasy 9 could've been a single game. It's simply never been possible.

[-] RQG@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago
[-] xyzzy@lemm.ee 3 points 9 months ago

If it had been, don't you think Square could simply remake it in one game rather than splitting it into the multi-game saga that it always has been? It would never work!

[-] aniki@discuss.tchncs.de 10 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Did they even finish the FF7 remake?

[-] iAmTheTot@sh.itjust.works 7 points 9 months ago

There are two 7 Remake games out, with one more on the way afaik.

[-] lord_ryvan@ttrpg.network 6 points 9 months ago

Ah, so the answer is no, no it's not done yet. Cool. /s

[-] cupcakezealot 1 points 9 months ago

i'm fine with that, honestly. i love the breakup of ff7 into three different pieces because it gives it more time to bake and tell a story instead of trying to fit it all in one game.

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