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[-] PonyOfWar@pawb.social 41 points 1 month ago

Definitely unethical. Domestic cats are already a huge problem for wild bird populations. Why would you want to intentionally make that problem even worse?

[-] Moobythegoldensock@lemm.ee 26 points 1 month ago

It’s not ethical to let your cats outside at all.

[-] Rutty@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

No. Just no. Even prisoners are allowed outdoor privileges.

They’re interested, it’s a contained area, they are supervised. No.

[-] Moobythegoldensock@lemm.ee 7 points 1 month ago

Contained? Sure. Letting them run wild in areas where they’re not native makes them have the same effect as an invasive species.

[-] Cort@lemmy.world 22 points 1 month ago

Certainly not, if there's any chance of endangered species visiting your berry patch

[-] Rutty@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I agree here. What if the bird population wasn’t endangered and considered a pest?

To be clear this is hypothetical. I haven’t done anything.

[-] Catoblepas 11 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

You can’t guarantee that only “pest” birds (which still may be native, protected species) will visit your birdbath, or that they won’t carry some illness or parasite to pass on to your cat.

[-] Rutty@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I’ll counter with. I have a vet. I am interested in birdwatching and the cats are only outside supervised.

Good points.

[-] Catoblepas 10 points 1 month ago

Ask your vet if they think it’s a good idea to let your cat eat random wild birds during an outbreak of H5N1 ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

I like bird watching too, and it’s easier to do without a predator scaring them off.

[-] Rutty@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 month ago

I suppose you’re right.

I doubt I want to deal with a dead bird anyway.

You win the wisdom award. At least until I get bored and look up bird population parasite/diseases more in depth. Which I am unlikely to do.

[-] Foreigner@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

This is impossible to guarantee or control for. Birds migrate, you never know who might make a pitstop at your feeder. I've spotted birds that were so far off their normal range it created a buzz in the local birding community. There's a non-zero chance something endangered or at least very rare could stop by your feeder.

If you're worried about making sure your cat gets enough stimulation there are a lot of articles and tips on things you can do that require little effort on your part (like, even a cardboard box full of crumpled paper can do the job).

[-] barsquid@lemmy.world 17 points 1 month ago

If you are in the US, deliberately hunting birds with an unsupervised pet cat is almost certainly a violation of the MBTA.

[-] Rutty@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 month ago

Interesting. Thanks for this

[-] all-knight-party@fedia.io 14 points 1 month ago

I mean the cats can get enough of their predatory instincts out by play fighting or playing with toys. You can alternatively just use a laser pointer and treats with them instead without affecting the ecosystem or killing birds just tryna live like everybody else

[-] Rutty@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 month ago

That’s a good take

[-] zzx@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago

What an insane thing to ask

[-] Rutty@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 month ago

What a rude thing to say

[-] JubilantJaguar@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago

Guessing you're American. Over here in soft Europe, even to ask that question would get you ostracized as a psychopath.

Of course, most of us are complete hypocrites given our diets.

[-] Rutty@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 month ago

Touch grass my European friend

[-] Rutty@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 month ago
[-] Appleseuss@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

Birds aren't real, so it seems like a fine idea to me.

[-] Skull@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

If you're alright with the possibility of the outcome leading to dead birds, you do you.

[-] Varyk@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

nope, that's unethical.

I might personally do it, though.

[-] Asidonhopo@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

Cats eat birds. You are punishing your cat by getting only a bird bath and not spreading heaps of birdseed around too to attract birds and squirrels for prey. Go for it, cats will thank you. Think of their purring, their adoring eyes. Be sure to put camoflagued and comfortable ambush sites in close reach of the killing grounds. Cheers.

[-] Rutty@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 month ago

This is my favorite comment btw. You win the thread

[-] Asidonhopo@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

In the winter growing up we had a big ol tomcat and he would get the winter blues when feet and feet of snow would fall, so we'd get a 5 gallon bucket, punch a hole at the base at one side and fill it with birdseed so it would pour out slowly and set it up against the snowbank. We dug a little cat hole in the snowbank that faced it and laid a warm blanket in there for him to sit and watch and hunt the birds and squirrels. We loved that old tomcat, I still have a painting I did of him. Mom would pick and dry flowers and put them in his bed under the layers of old clothes and he would sleep on it near the wood stove and dream of spring. Cats spend only a short time with us and we owe it to them to do anything possible to make their lives more joyous and fulfilling. Thank you, stranger, may you have many happy years with your cats.

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