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"These attacks violate the human right to life, absent any indication that the victims posed an imminent lethal threat to anyone else at the time."

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[-] dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world 45 points 5 months ago

Right on.

So... uh, what are we actually going to do about it this time?

Anybody...?

[-] goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org 14 points 5 months ago

More finger wagging or asking them to investigate themselves

[-] Moah 9 points 5 months ago

Someone might attempt to pass a resolution at the UN, and the US will veto it.

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[-] Karyoplasma@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 5 months ago

An even stronger-worded letter than the last dozen times.

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[-] sik0fewl@lemmy.ca 27 points 5 months ago

Wait til they find out what's happening in Palestine.

[-] HomebrewHedonist@lemmy.ca 26 points 5 months ago

I'm pretty sure Israel really doesn't care.

[-] Fades@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago

The world itself doesn’t care, everyone involved in this conflict has violated international law lmao

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[-] OccamsRazer@lemmy.world 8 points 5 months ago

Israel deserves criticism for indiscriminately bombing the general location where terrorists live, and accepting that civilian casualties are part of the deal, but then people continue to criticize a sophisticated and precision attack against the enemy combatants with an absolute minimum of civilian casualties. Seems like people think Israel has no right to defend itself at all, and makes you wonder if it's just good old fashioned anti semitism.

[-] Madison420@lemmy.world 28 points 5 months ago

Sure let's ignore the whole in a country they aren't at war with thing.

I don't know what country you live in but if someone bombed my neighborhood to take out a single person people would be rightly outraged.

[-] OccamsRazer@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago

If I were Lebanon I'd be pretty annoyed, but they also aren't really doing anything about the terrorists using their country as a base, so I also can't blame Israel for taking matters into their own hands.

[-] Madison420@lemmy.world 15 points 5 months ago

I can't help but notice Israel isn't doing anything about the illegal settlements, the settlers, or the settlers that keep murdering Palestinians while the IDF watches and on occasion helps.

Should Lebanon be cleared to kill civilians with explosives in illegal settlements?

[-] OccamsRazer@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago

Are the illegal settlements on land belonging to Lebanese citizens? What do they have to do with the settlements? Or are you saying that the terrorists living in Gaza are actually from Lebanon?

[-] Madison420@lemmy.world 11 points 5 months ago

Yes. This is well documented.

https://unwatch.org/item-7/claim/claim-39-israel-illegally-occupies-syrian-and-lebanese-territory/

You're either very dumb or very bad at reading, Israel has the settlements dumb dumb.

[-] OccamsRazer@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago

The article you linked says that Israel owns the settlements legally. Are you trolling me?

[-] Madison420@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago

That's in watches position, the claim is laid by Egypt and the UN is unquestionably held hostage but the UK and the US so your not going to get their agreement. You do however gain an understanding of pattern or practice of illegal occupation of Sovereign land.

If you actually cared about extremism you'd know there's a Israeli group in Lebanon who advocate and take actions for the expansion of illegal settlements in Lebanon, they are very very not quiet about it.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.newarab.com/news/extremist-settlers-hold-meeting-occupying-south-lebanon%3famp

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israeli_occupation_of_Southern_Lebanon

It's not called an occupation because they're all getting jobs.

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[-] spirinolas@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago

What does that have to do with anything? Lebanon also doesn't belong to Israel. He's making the argument that you can't bomb a SOVEREIGN country just because you want to take out someone you don't like. If someone from Hezbollah went to Turkey would Israel bomb them there? I'd like to see them try. But it would never happen because Israel is a bully and only picks on the weak.

[-] OccamsRazer@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago

Lebanon is fully involved in this conflict. Hezbollah is entrenched there and arguably the Hezbollah military is stronger than the official Lebanese armed forces. Lebanon can't or won't evict the sworn enemies of Israel, and I don't blame Israel for taking matters into their own hands. And yes they probably would feel the need to coordinate with Turkey or get their permission before trying something similar.

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[-] beliquititious 7 points 5 months ago

Isn't espionage generally a violation of international law? Like extra-judicial killing violates the sovereignty of the host nation? I guess I have been thinking this whole time that sort of stuff was 1,000% illegal, but everyone operated on a "don't get caught" understanding.

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[-] FlowVoid@lemmy.world 7 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Does launching rockets at Israel violate international law?

Did the kids killed by rockets in a soccer field pose an imminent lethal threat?

[-] Madison420@lemmy.world 11 points 5 months ago

You say they're terrorists if I'm not mistaken.

Why then would you judge morality against what you say is immoral? I think like every mainstream religious text ever has something about two wrongs don't make a right.

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[-] PushButton@lemmy.world 8 points 5 months ago

I'm gonna put you in a cage, feed you at a minimum and beat you every day.

When you gonna bite me out of despair, I will unleash all my fury on you, your family and your friends saying to everyone it's YOUR FAULT this is happening.

Find what's wrong in that little story and your eyes might open up.

[-] spirinolas@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago

That won't happen because he'd have to recognize both actors as human beings. You're missing the basic premise of Zionism. Zionism comes from the assumption that Palestinians are not human beings so they are never supposed to fight back, just take any abuse and be happy with it and die when they're told to. Like farm animals. If a cow is being branded and kills her handler she will be caught and put down. Nobody is going to justify what she did even though she just defended herself.

This is how Zionists view Palestinians. Making arguments about humanity with them is moot because they don't recognize Palestinians as such. Like Nazism, you can't solve this problem until this hateful ideology is rooted out from the core.

[-] FlowVoid@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago

Palestinians

Hezbollah is not Palestinian.

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[-] FlowVoid@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago

Your story has nothing to do with Hezbollah

[-] ColdWater@lemmy.ca 5 points 5 months ago

What can they do about it? Nuke Israel?

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