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iPhone 15 is coming next month, and multiple rumors suggest Apple will finally switch from its proprietary Lightning connector to...

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[-] Objects@lemmy.sdf.org 27 points 1 year ago
[-] Zorque@kbin.social 20 points 1 year ago

When they need a new standard to replace all the disparate current ones.

[-] RagingRobot@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

I guess never since phones have to use this. Unless everything else changes to USB-D and phones have to stay on C

[-] theplanlessman@feddit.uk 6 points 1 year ago

I can't find any more info on the Saudi law, but I believe the EU law at least has provisions for moving to a new standard in the future if a better alternative comes along. So when USB-D arrives, if it is seen to be a better standard, the EU can mandate that it becomes the new charging standard.

[-] reddithalation@sopuli.xyz 24 points 1 year ago

it's good that Saudi Arabia did this but its hard to feel good about such a screwed up, journalist murdering country.

[-] BudgetBandit@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago

So like Hotler building the Autobahn?

[-] Bootheal0179@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago

So far, nothing I’ve ever owned has had a C connector, I have two computers with c ports, but nothing to plug in to them. Also, does the thunderbolt look like the USBc? If you plug in a thunderbolt device into a USBc, does it work or burn out the port?

[-] Crow@lemmy.world 56 points 1 year ago

That’s actually impressive you’ve managed to stay in the past so long.

[-] Bootheal0179@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago

I have always striven to remain at the cutting edge of obsolescence. It is fun to keep old tech going

[-] Crow@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago

Thank you for being the kind of person I sell my used tech to so I can buy new tech. You are a hero.

[-] unreachable@lemmy.my.id 2 points 1 year ago

something something junk something something treasure

[-] agent_flounder@lemmy.one 6 points 1 year ago

"written from my Palm Pilot"

[-] fryday@lemmy.nz 2 points 1 year ago

What devices do you have that connect over usb-c aside from a phone? As far as I've seen, it's still not common for keyboards, mice, webcams, controllers, monitors, printers, or external drives (though I'd admit drives are becoming more common, particularly for ssds). I'm honestly curious, because I feel like I'm missing out.

[-] edent@lemmy.one 10 points 1 year ago

All my gadgets use USB-C. Bluetooth headphones, eReader, laptop, printer, power bank, 360 camera, they all charge via USB-C.

Hell, even my neck cooler runs off it.

[-] fryday@lemmy.nz 2 points 1 year ago

Ah, for charging, sure. The comment I was replying to seemed like they were talking about interacting/interfacing via usb-c with their desktop, not just charging, which is certainly becoming more common.

[-] edent@lemmy.one 2 points 1 year ago

To be clear - they also work with data transfer (well, except the power bank and neck cooler).

I copy ebooks to my reader over USB, transfer photos off my camera, and print photos - all via USB-C.

[-] ArianaGrande@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

My headset, watch, powerbank, Nintendo switch, my TV remote

[-] kbrot@kbin.social 22 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Just about everything except truly basement-tier China tech sitting in warehouses has C now so you'll soon be glad to have the ports.

USB C is a form factor (pretty little reversible oval cable). Thunderbolt is a protocol and yes it uses USB C for the form factor. Other protocols on USB C cabling include 2.0 (ancient speed, used for charging only these days), 3.1 (old speed) 3.2 (slightly old but also not, it's weird, and most common nowadays), DisplayPort (lovely modern video standard), and USB4 (which is newest and fast, but not quite as fast as TB). Decent rule of thumb is USB4 will always be one step behind Thunderbolt in speed (currently ~80gbps vs 40gbps in USB4). The cable will work at the fastest speed permitted by both devices. If they both have TB, then TB speed and power. If only one is TB, it'll go at USB speed over yes the same cable because...

Lastly, any proper spec cable will negotiate the best, safest power transfer between chargers and devices. So just don't buy complete junk, read a couple reviews, you'll almost certainly be fine.

[-] TimeSquirrel@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

2.0 (ancient speed, used for charging only these days)

And for uploading the firmware into nearly every small device you have that has a microcontroller with some flash memory on it. They still use TTL serial, so a USB 2.0 to TTL serial adapter is often used. It's also still widely in use for, again, programming of things like commercial/industrial fire/burglar alarm panels.

Often, things we consider "old" in the consumer space go on to live for decades just fine in the industrial/commercial space.

[-] MossyFeathers@pawb.social 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Iirc thunderbolt looks like usb-c and it even works with usb-c, you just won't get the extra bandwidth and some devices won't work properly.

[-] couragethebravedog@lemmy.ml 11 points 1 year ago

These laws are fine until something better than c comes out. Then we have to wait for laws to be updated to make changes. We all know how slow government moves.

[-] driving_crooner@lemmy.eco.br 31 points 1 year ago

That kind of things are not wrote as laws. What they usually do, is wrote a law creating a regulatory body, or given the power to an existing one, that can determine how it works. So, when new technologies come around, the regulator just need to update the regulations without the need of a new law.

[-] fuckwit_mcbumcrumble@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago

If this is anything like Europe’s bill then if the USB-IF decides on USB D then they’d follow suit and switch to it.

[-] wholeofthemoon@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

USB-C is still easier than Lightning which I feel is the point?

[-] dmmeyournudes@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

USB-C isn't better than lighting when it comes to being a port on your phone. With how poorly implemented C is on most devices, the only thing it would have going for it is the interior ability of USB 2.0.

[-] Croquette@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The thing though is that lightning port is proprietary to Apple while USB is an open standard (in the sense that anyone can use it in their products. There are fees to have a vendor ID)

You have all these USB devices at home, but you need another cable for your phone only to line a company's pocket.

Apple can absolutely implement USB-C properly and stop fleecing their customers

[-] dmmeyournudes@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

It being proprietary is virtually irrelevant considering how many bootleg products out here use it. And now all those bootleg manufacturers are going to make USB-C stuff that isn't up to spec.

[-] Croquette@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago

It being proprietary stops people from actually implementing it correctly.

It closes the market to either buy a 40$ cable from Apple which is fucking highway robbery, or you get shitty knockoff. No in-between. Proprietary has never been a good thing for consumers and never will.

[-] dmmeyournudes@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

It's USB-2, wtf are you talking about?

[-] Guster@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

It used to be that Apple wanted to have their own standard in part to be able to sell more cables. By switching now, is actually not stupid- everyone have to buy new cables again

[-] LifeInOregon@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Aside from my iPhone, keyboard, trackpad, and the puck end of my watch charger I own nothing that doesn’t use USB C at this point.

[-] thann@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

MBS less evil than apple?

[-] vd1n@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Watch America have Elon develop a new USB that only Americans use. (But really it's just a USB-c that looks like weird sci-fi.)

[-] Pons_Aelius@kbin.social 15 points 1 year ago

This article has nothing to do with the country or person you mentioned...

[-] vd1n@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

...no shit Post Nazi. Why can't people mention USA, or EU or whatever country?

People are talking about USB c and countries.... That's on topic... That's ITT.

So what's your issue?

[-] Pons_Aelius@kbin.social 14 points 1 year ago

Can you go back to reddit?

[-] vd1n@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago
[-] Pons_Aelius@kbin.social 11 points 1 year ago

You seem to be creating things to be angry about and then get upset when others are not.

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