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[-] pietervdvn@lemmy.ml 136 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

All of you are invited on !openstreetmap@lemmy.ml

Also checkout the many editing tools, such as https://mapcomplete.org, https://streetcomplete.app,...

[-] exu@feditown.com 33 points 2 months ago

I successfully used Every Door during my holidays to contribute

[-] toastal@lemmy.ml 19 points 2 months ago

There’s a small learning curve I wish some bothered to understand first. Does this app help? The part of this I don’t like is vacationers leaving useless names like ‘Mango lady’, ‘many street vendors’ for a block, or ‘local restaurant’ since they can’t read the sign as opposed marking up the cuisine type, maybe adding an English description, & leaving the name blank. Nobody expects uploads to be perfect but Bangkok is littered with this noise that makes it hard to follow or find things.

[-] exu@feditown.com 12 points 2 months ago

It takes effort and knowledge to make good contributions, this app is just a tool to do that.

I can only say I myself try to make valuable contributions, some other people might care less.

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[-] nutsack@lemmy.world 125 points 2 months ago

the biggest problem I have with switching is that Google Maps is a business directory. open street maps is empty where i live. it works okay for navigation, but not so much for finding a coffee.

[-] snrkl@lemmy.sdf.org 48 points 2 months ago

there are ways to make it easier; it's been gamified:

https://github.com/streetcomplete/StreetComplete

Available on FDROID.

When my partner stops to play pokemon go, I complete some Open Street Map info quests...

[-] controlphreak@lemmy.ml 13 points 2 months ago

Street Complete is a great app for quests regarding existing features, but also consider the feature might not exist at all yet in OSM.

Map Complete is great for adding new features. It also asks a bunch of optional simple questions about the feature which gets converted into the relevant OSM tags. It's browser based but you can just add a shortcut to your home screen to have it quickly accessible.

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[-] teolan@lemmy.world 33 points 2 months ago

You can contribute them!

There's a pretty barebones editor in Organic Maps, but you can also check out Street Complete and Every door (more advanced and less user friendly, though insanely efficient)

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[-] rimu@piefed.social 89 points 2 months ago
[-] unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de 135 points 2 months ago

Yeah but it demonstrates googles unwillingness to cooperate and give fair warnings.

[-] fmstrat@lemmy.nowsci.com 59 points 2 months ago

You seem pretty active with OSM, so I'll propose this here since I don't have time to make it.

OSM is very, very popular with hikers and cyclists, and I'd argue rhey drive a lot of it's use, especially via third-party systems. However, it's one failing is "gravel" roads. While they support many different gravel road types, they admit on their Wiki that use of the proper terms is low.

Given the heavy use of Garmin devices, especially among gravel cyclists, mountain bikers, and bikepackers, where terrain definition is important, it would be outstanding to have an app in the Garmin store for Edge devices that could report the exact terrain type (compacted, dirt, etc) with a button mash as you ride it.

[-] ZBobbert@sh.itjust.works 19 points 2 months ago

Check out StreetComplete (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=de.westnordost.streetcomplete)

It does more than just road surface type, and incorporates location-based OSM editing in a very user-friendly way!

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[-] HumanPenguin@feddit.uk 13 points 2 months ago

I will add as a narrowboater.

I found towpaths also have this issue with definition of surface.

I am legally blind. (Some vision but bad)

I have a few times tried to add more ditail to areas of towpath that will help the others like me know what to expect before mooring.

Seems anything that improves this will help in your issues as well.

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[-] Sunshine@lemmy.ca 49 points 2 months ago

Openstreetmaps has 8.75% of the contributors Google Maps has.

Organic Maps has 1% the user base Google Maps has.

[-] 101@feddit.org 121 points 2 months ago

The same can be said about Lemmy and Reddit, but look where we are.

We need to support open-source projects and stop being simps for bad companies like Google.

[-] Sunshine@lemmy.ca 12 points 2 months ago

Agreed! I got one for that too:

Lemmy vs Reddit

Monthly Users (0.004%) 44k vs 1.2b

[-] GravitySpoiled@lemmy.ml 25 points 2 months ago

1 billion users on reddit is not realistic

[-] WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world 35 points 2 months ago

With 700 million bots conducting marketing and psychological warfare ops it is!

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[-] unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de 47 points 2 months ago

And its still better :)

[-] asbestos@lemmy.world 30 points 2 months ago
[-] Sunshine@lemmy.ca 47 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

I just did 30 minutes of contributing to the osm database.

[-] potustheplant@feddit.nl 17 points 2 months ago

So? Every platform starts at 0%.

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[-] erenkoylu@lemmy.ml 45 points 2 months ago

OrganicMaps is amazing. Strong recommend to everyone. I only recently found out about it.

[-] kameecoding@lemmy.world 12 points 2 months ago

Any details on why it's amazing? What does it do or doesn't?

[-] volkerwirsing@feddit.org 39 points 2 months ago
  • It has the map corpus from OpenStreetMap, so one of the best in the world
  • It works offline - just download the desired maps onto the device
  • That makes it really, really fast. Google Maps is slower
  • You can also use it in areas with bad reception. I'm using it for hiking in the woods where there is no cell phone connection available
  • I really like the UI - they are f.e. better at displaying house numbers and street names than Google.
  • No ads
[-] wizrad@lemmy.ca 16 points 2 months ago

On the hiking note, it also shows a lot of trails. I used it to navigate to a trail head and was pleasantly surprised to see a rough outline of the trails I would be using plus some others I didn't know were there.

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[-] NutWrench@lemmy.world 27 points 2 months ago

Organic Maps is available on F-Droid.

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[-] Dezzorian@lemmy.world 24 points 2 months ago

I've used OrganicMaps in the past, but for searching POIs and ahead route planning its just unusable.

Meanwhile i've found GraphHopper, an open source search, route and (experimental) navigation app from Germany. Great thing: its blazing fast! Check it out on F-Droid.

[-] zer0squar3d@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 2 months ago

For the lazy: GraphHopper Maps (Online route planner and experimental GPS navigation) https://f-droid.org/packages/com.graphhopper.maps/

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[-] zer0bitz@lemmy.world 19 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Just downloaded and installed Organic Maps from F-Droid. Looks really nice.

[-] Ilgaz@lemm.ee 19 points 2 months ago

Reminder: As long as you don't get rid of "Google Play Services" running as "root" 24/7, removing/not using Google Maps doesn't mean so much to Google.

[-] erenkoylu@lemmy.ml 21 points 2 months ago

I disagree. It's a step in the right direction, even if there is still a long distance to go.

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[-] maniacalmanicmania@aussie.zone 15 points 2 months ago

Aside from saving places what else can you do with google maps that can be exported?

[-] Zementid@feddit.nl 14 points 2 months ago

I didn't know about Organic-Maps. I used Osmand, which has a subscription fee for downloading maps.

Thx!

[-] RaoulDook@lemmy.world 10 points 2 months ago

I didn't have to pay for it, installed from F-Droid, and I can download any map I've tried so far. When I'm traveling I like to pre-download the standard map for the whole state if it's one I don't already have installed. It's nice to not have to worry about data / reception.

Overall OsmAnd is a pretty good GPS-map-navigation app, but has several annoyances and bugs. Still better than using Google's app to me. I need to check out Organic maps too

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[-] Phoenicianpirate@lemm.ee 13 points 2 months ago

Google maps is the last vestige of Google that I use. I was never a Google search user and I only use Gmail for 'official' stuff.

So yeah, I want this to work.

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[-] MigratingtoLemmy@lemmy.world 11 points 2 months ago

Can't we script a complete copy of Google maps data (shops, highways etc) to this? Is the API restricted? Can we run distributed jobs for it? I can spin up some compute if someone is interested in trying this

[-] Melatonin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 23 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Organic maps SPECIFICALLY doesn't want that. It would be grounds for them being sued and having to comb through their database and remove any "questionable" material.

It would be the end of the project, they don't have money for that.

[-] chebra@mstdn.io 13 points 2 months ago

@Melatonin @MigratingtoLemmy

Not Organic Maps, that's just the client. The data is OpenStreetMap, more info about imports here: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Import

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[-] InsertUser@en.osm.town 14 points 2 months ago

@MigratingtoLemmy @101 @openstreetmap

No, this is against Google TOS and OpenStreetMap policy on data sources and the Data Working Group will step in and block any accounts doing this to protect the project as a whole.

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[-] Debs@lemmy.zip 11 points 2 months ago

Organic maps is great and I wish I could use it more. I commute in a city and traffic data is very important to me when it comes to route planning. It can be the difference between an hour commute and a 15min commute. Due to this, I'm pulled back to using google maps as my default.

Is it not possible to anonymize traffic data so that it can be made available in google maps? I'd gladly contribute a bit of data in order to improve this app. I'd even pay a bit of money for a pro version.

Great app all the same.

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[-] Tartas1995@discuss.tchncs.de 11 points 2 months ago

These posts are motivating

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[-] dRLY@lemmy.ml 10 points 2 months ago

Just installed and signed into my OSM account! Been meaning to update more of my area.

I am looking to try moving away from Waze too. Are there any good open projects that have support for reporting cops and the other stuff like Waze? When I was looking last year, I came across Navmii since it does have some level of reporting stuff. However the app itself is very glitchy and I don't think it is really actively being worked on. Or is popular enough to even know if literally anyone around me is reporting things. When I have tried to report a cop being parked waiting for speeders, it doesn't show anything even on my map.

They use OSM data which I think is also not being actively scraped, as I personally added my entire street's addresses and doesn't show on Navmii (but does show up on the main OSM site and on Organic Maps).

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