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[-] Turkey_Titty_city@kbin.social 39 points 1 year ago

I live in a 'communist' city.

Most people here are driving huge honkin' SUVs and are screaming about the lack of street parking, even though they have driveways.

The entitlement is pure insanity, and this is from so called leftist liberals. The same ones who support BLM, but viciously oppose any new development, especially anything that with affordable housing units.

Truth is a lot of lefties become conservatives when they the issues affect them.

[-] Fried_out_Kombi@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago

Yeah, that's my experience as well. The YIMBY-NIMBY divide crosses traditional party lines. There's something deeply ironic about seeing someone saying we need to solve inequality and the climate crisis, then turn around and say multifamily housing, bike lanes, and public transit will destroy the neighborhood.

Like, you can either be for climate solutions or sprawling suburbia, but not both. You can be for solving the housing crisis or sprawling suburbia, but not both. You can be for fixing things or the status quo, but not both.

[-] dangblingus@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Somehow I suspect, if this account is accurate, it's wildly anecdotal. Did you ask them their politics as they ranted about street parking from their Escalade? You're sure that these SUV driving, public infrastructure hating, affordable housing hating are leftists? They just sound like NPC neolibs to me.

[-] parmenides@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago

I'm in St Paul, MN. I see the same stuff as their anecdote.

Minneapolis is the same way too.

[-] 3laws@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

This must be a USA thing Latin American leftists would die on the streets for more public spaces and walkable/bicycle cites. I know I would.

[-] skellener@kbin.social 7 points 1 year ago

They tax and keep. They don’t spend. They keep it…all.

[-] parmenides@lemm.ee 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Spending on roads is popular with conservatives. Spending on rail or other forms of transit is not.

[-] Fried_out_Kombi@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

Tax-and-spend-it-all-on-themselves

[-] WookieMunster@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

When the world is burning, will all their security protect them or turn on them?

[-] BoBandyQuaid@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

We’ll still need the roads & streets, repairs/repaves, traffic lights, and snow plows even if 95% of us switch to bikes, e-mopeds, and trains…

In a hypothetical 2050 America that has embraced walkable neighborhoods and biking M-F and only using cars to visit friends in a different city, the roads & streets will still be being worn out at nearly the same rate by the elements and heavy delivery, construction, and emergency vehicles.

Because the road-quality bar for driveability is a often noticeably lower than the bar for bikeability, many/most municipalities with actual bike users on the board may vote for higher quality road construction, which likely would raise labor and/or material costs and likely balancing out to the same 20 year costs despite maybe going an extra year or two between repaves due to significantly less civilian 3,000-8,000lbs commuter vehicle use.

[-] Fried_out_Kombi@lemmy.world 24 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

We'd need streets, yes, but if we eliminated car-dependent sprawl (e.g., single-family detached zoning and parking minimums), we wouldn't need nearly as many streets. Further, if we shifted as much freight as possible to other modes like local rail, cargo trams, and NEVs, then we would vastly reduce wear on roads from the 4th power law.

[-] Fedop@slrpnk.net 5 points 1 year ago

The 4th power law BLOWS MY MIND. Long-haul trucking in America is literally the most destructive force to the roads they drive on.

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