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When you realize your NATO crush only likes you as a proxy
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Should have worn that naziesque star wars "savor fettuccine" shirt. Jens might have been a bit more interested.
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He is currently in his Iran-iraq war Saddam phase. Not much longer until the Iraq-Kuwait war phase.
NATO is going to need a scapegoat when the proxy war runs its course.
He will be blamed for the future defeat of the war and loss of control of fascist units with Western weapons, thus justifying intervention in what is left of Ukraine.
A plausible scenario.
The imperialists didn't give all that 'aid' to Ukraine for nothing. They're going to want the contacts to rebuild part of the country, whatever happens.
The big question is how far Russia is going to push after it starts going on their offensive. There might not be anything left for the west to plunder in the end.
Easy, the Azov Battalion will be rebranded as terrorists to justify NATO occupation of Ukraine to stop the Nazis.
It really is just Iraq
lol sad part is I can totally see that, western media will act like Ukraine duped the west and they totally didn't realize they were nazis until now
And 80%+ of the Collective West's citizens will buy it, just like they bought Iraq, Syria, Libya, Afghanistan, Somalia, Ethiopia, and Ukraine since 2014. It hurts my sensibilities. Some of the most intelligent people I know buy this shit, every fucking time. Clearly deep knowledge in one area doesn't matter much when it comes to spotting admittedly obvious patterns of propaganda. Sigh...
The fact that this just keep happening and seemingly intelligent people don't see the pattern is the most depressing part for sure. Imagine believing that this is the first just war the west got itself into.
record scratch "yep, that's me. You may be wondering how I got there"
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It's weirdly humanizing in a way. Like you just see the sad empty shell of a desperate human being. There's nothing left outside of the character the actor portrays. He knows there's little to no chance there exists a scenario where he gets out of this alive.
That really sums it up, you can see he knows the gig is up. I really think the plan was to have a spectacular offensive that would cut off Crimea, and then push for NATO membership based on that. Now, he's realizing that it's just going to be business as usual where NATO will keep sending scraps without getting directly involved, and his regime is going to be ground down in the end.
It's hard to have sympathy for the guy who had the opportunity to end this all back in March last year, but instead chose the course that led to hundreds of thousands of people dying, and millions more having their lives ruined. This clown deserves what's coming to him.
I'm not so sure about that, I'm sure he'll be able to flee before anyone else and enjoy some nice days in the US or Canada
It's possible, but they are gonna need a scapegoat in the end.
Or they will accept the defeat, take Zelensky as refugee and keep fear mongering against Russia, presenting it as maniac dictatorship being prime aggressor, to strengthen NATO by making more countries join out of fear from Russia.
Comrade, tell us the parallels you are drawing when you say they gonna need a scapegoat.
I expect that accepting defeat will be career ending for a lot of the politicians in the west. Once it becomes impossible to pretend that the war is anything but a debacle, then recriminations are going to start flying. Meanwhile, it's going to be hard to get any NATO unity when the economic situation continues to unravel. People in Europe are starting to get angry, and when they're told that there's gonna have to be even more austerity that could be the breaking point. Notice how parties that want to start dialog with Russia are starting to get popular all of a sudden. Unfortunately, pretty much all of them are right wingers because the left in the west ended up aligning with the imperialists.
I expect that accepting defeat will be career ending for a lot of the politicians in the west.
A lot of those might only have till the next election anyway, thanks to the inflation they've either encouraged or done nothing about. Then again, support for Ukraine is kinda cross-party in the west. It's hard to predict. Considering the brain worms, one thing we might hope for is that media barons somehow lose a load of money because of the war and shift the narrative hard. This might be too much to hope for, though.
It's gonna be interesting to watch how this develops, my expectation is that deteriorating material conditions are what's going to matter in the end. You can feed people as much media as you want, but if they can't make their ends meet then they're still gonna be pissed.
So they knew the end result but still started the war as a an extra gig for US imperialists to make some quick bucks, and then reset Europe - Russia relationships to pre war.
I get the impression that they are completely detached from reality, and they expected Russia to just collapse within a few weeks of the war starting. Then they just kept hoping that Russia would run out of weapons, or that Russian army would crack, or that they could choke Russia economically somehow. The longer this went on the more they got trapped in their own lies, and now they've painted themselves into a corner and have no idea what to do about it.
What do you think about Russia Europe relations after war? Is Russia going to deliberately keep the trade relations low to let US suck Europe dry or they gonna forget their hostility and start exporting again?
I expect Russia will be open to dialog, but they will demand a new security architecture in Europe outside of NATO. It's also possible that Russia will try to pull countries like Hungary and Serbia into its sphere if economic situation in Europe continues to deteriorate.
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