cross-posted from: https://lemmy.blahaj.zone/post/16511967
Someone got woken up on Sunday morning 🤣
If its any consolation wrt Harley riders, the company is losing customers to old age, and attempts to appeal to the younger generation just get the old one (their existing base) mad enough to protest loudly against it, leading to the rep of it being a weekend warrior bike for grandpa to live his never was (as opposed to has been) biker fantasy. Not gonna stop a particular brand of pencil-dicks from making their cars loud and obnoxious, ofc, but still, take w's where you can.
South Park completely nailed the "removeds" episode. That was one for the ages. Aww c'mon, are we really worse than Reddit when it comes to censorship? Goddammit... Seems the "removeds" won.
while I actually loved that south park episode and their point that words (that word specifically) change their meaning over time, the "answer" they came up with is a joke of course. A joke that only works because bikers are upset and confused by the 'real' meaning of 'flag'. If the original meaning didn't exist it couldn't be used to hurt the bikers' feelings, it relies on its existing meaning to hurt them.
You cannot forcibly change what words mean. No matter how hard Trey and Matt wish they were iconoclasts and as much as i appreciate them? They REALLY aren't as clever as they think they are. What they did, if they had succeeded would just allow CHUDs to yell 'flag' at homosexuals and pretend they were calling them bikers, so it's a good thing it flopped.
As cool as it would be if "bundle of sticks" stopped being a slur, the slur itself is not the problem, the intent is. Intent behind calling bikers 'flags' is to make them feel like you're calling them homosexuals, relies on homosexuality itself being a slur. The end. No debate. Full stop. It doesn't even change anything, its hurting feelings RELIES on the meaning we currently agree on. Feel me?
South Park completely nailed the "removeds" episode. That was one for the ages. Aww c'mon, are we really worse than Reddit when it comes to censorship? Goddammit... Seems the "removeds" won.
Can you reveal what's behind the censorship enforced by Lemmy.world without triggering it?
Alternatively I would suggest you look for another instance that isn't draconian.
I'm assuming he is talking about the biker gang episode, in which case he is probably talking about the F-word (meaning the slur against gay people).
Personally, I think having a filter against slurs is not unreasonable
I've been thinking of getting a motorcycle, and Harley has no entry level bikes So new riders try a Honda or Kawasaki when young and broke and build brand loyalty to that, I'm sure.
Not surprising Harley is dying. All their stuff is so expensive you never get to figure out if it's good or if they're coasting on reputation while quality goes to shit or something.
The only reason really to get a Harley is to... Get a Harley. There are other bikes that are cheaper, more powerful, more comfortable, more reliable, and objectively better in most regards.
Had a friend who said he was considering removing the exhaust on his bike because it would sound cooler, everyone else in the friendgroup said we would pour sugar in his gastank if he ever did that
Thank you for your service
New Rule: if the motorcycle you purchased exceeds noise ordinance levels for a given area, said motorcycle cannot be sold, driven, or registered in that area, nor can it be parked in a public parking spot in that area.
Honestly though, I wish police would simply enforce noise ordinances and anyone with more than one violation would have their bike impounded.
I wish police would simply enforce noise ordinances
I live next to a catholic church/school and sometimes on the weekend or near sunset a local kid rides his motocross bike all around the church yard. Annoying as fuck and it chews up the yard and everything. I've called the cops three or four times but they've never bothered to send an officer out. I called the church and all they did was install a bunch of super-bright LED lights which are on 24 hours a day. Kid still rides his bike there and now I can't sit outside at night anymore because of the fucking lights.
I had to listen to a friend of my gf's sister talking how she will make her car loud and all that. I really wanted to punch her in the face for being such an absolute dumbass. Why do you need your car to be above the legal sound limit?
Because she either a sadist, a psychopath, and/or a narcissist.
Send her this article: Who Wants a Loud Car? [Psychology Today]
Tell her to get help.
Because it's cool.
Apparently.
I'd like to see all noisy bikes and cars seized and crushed. And the owner billed for the work and time.
Let me run out and ask my neighbor, who also carries a gun while he mows the lawn
this is probably a joke but in these times i have to check. fo' real?
Not OC, but I don't doubt it. I've seen several people strapped with guns walking around their suburban home in my very red state. I saw a guy with a pistol clipped to his gym shorts getting the mail once, just dangling around, falling lower with every step. 2A bros are terrified of everything and panic without an emotional support weapon
Oh it's real. I used to have a neighbor who would mow with a massive revolver on his belt, and no shirt
My neighbor is a decent man. I like him. We differ greatly politically but we can have a conversation and find common ground against the rich. My neighbor is not a racist. My neighbor is not a caricature.
My neighbor wears his gun to walk from his porch to mine to talk. And our houses are literally fifteen feet apart.
It's a perfectly normal hobby for 100% straight, manly, conservative, white (did I mention straight?) men, who like to meet up with other 100% straight men, to wear skin-tight leather suits and enjoy the strong vibrations of their hot Harley engine between their legs.
Okay, but just to be clear, assless chaps are still super hetero, right?
Right?
And those motocross. My family lives in a rural area with a rail trail. So to go there I often just cycle on the rail trail.
Unfortunately it's also used by a local motocross group. They're not supposed to but they obviously don't give a fuck.
At least you can hear them coming from kilometres away. Which is interesting because the police or whoever is supposed to enforce "bicycles only" on that bike path doesn't seem to hear them. Nor see the very obvious tracks.
The most insulting part is that they close the path in fall, winter and spring because they don't want CYCLISTS to damage the bike path, yet there's assholes on motocross driving on it.
Just gonna drop this here. https://www.psypost.org/psychopathy-and-sadism-drive-preference-for-loud-vehicles-study-suggests/
I have one of these assholes next door. It could be 4 in the morning and said shit, revving in the driveway for ten+ minutes before riding off. Then you still have to wait for them to get a hold away before you get any peace. These same shit stains are always blasting classic rock through their tiny motorcycle speakers loud enough to hear over the already deafening exhaust.
But he's not even the worst offender on my street. There are three homes, each with more vehicles than driveway that have diesel trucks and wannabe race cars. For whatever reason these idiots all leave their shit idling for up to an hour at a time. It is not unusual for multiple vehicles to just be running at any given time day or night while my personal possessions vibrate uncontrollably. There may also be music blasting from one or more of these vehicles. The noise is the worst part but depending on the wind I also get exhaust fumes entering my bedroom when I'm just trying to exist.
If you guessed that this is in Florida you'd be right. Can't wait to escape this hellhole.
Man, there is a small d man who lives along my street and EVERY F DAY he drives his loud and noisy motorbike. It's driving me insane!
Also, there is a car that every f day, around 10 am, drive down the street, but his carburetor is open, being stupidly loud! It make me literally sick!
There was a guy who used to rev his obnoxiously loud bike super early and super late round my way, it was so loud it would leave your ears ringing even inside with the windows shut.
He died in a bike accident and everyone was happy, so many neighbour's I've barely spoken to shared a quiet comment about it.
We do though get a ride through every year from the chapter of the gang he was in because he died 'a heros death' according to them as he had been fighting a different group of manchildren on motorbikes earlier that day and they were possibly chasing him at the time.
The family have a shrine to him by the road (not where he died, just near their house) with empty beer cans, burnt out candles, biker patches, cheap plastic skulls, and slogans about how tough or cool bikers are. It's a fascinating testament to how we form groups and make our own reality, I think he and they really believe that when we saw him on that stupidly loud bike we wished we could be as cool as him rather than everyone viewing him as nothing but an annoyance.
Duality exists. He might have been awesome in a way they saw, even if his loud pipes were annoying to you.
Don't know if he was, only that you got a limited view of this person, and it seems cruel to degenerate how other people mourn.
Set the bike on fire.
What's the difference between a Harley and a Hoover?
Location of the dirt bag.
Just wait until you get these idiots:
Imagine if motorbikes didn’t exist. These dickheads would have to go up to people and shout “MY DICK IS BIGGER THAN YOURS” in their faces one at a time.
Then they would all drive diesel trucks with modified exhaust and floor it between stop signs
I wish I could find a city that actually enforced noise ordinances against loud vehicles. Every city I've lived in has been way too fucking loud for me to handle, so now I have to drive everywhere because the alternative is live in a city and be driven insane by noise pollution.
We really do not value quiet enough.
And the people here who's idea of a utopia is all of us living in Mega City One are the worst of them.
I used to play WoW with a guy in London, and literally every time he opened his mic to speak, it was a cacophony of sirens and cars and helicopters. I don't know how people in cities can even here themselves think. Like, great, you can order from 20 different Chinese takeaways but at what cost?
Other folks will probably reply with "Cities aren't loud, cars are loud" but sirens and helicopters will still be there even if there aren't cars.
Plus if the city is quiet suddenly I'm all anxious because I don't want to bother anyone with my noise. Social anxiety and cities do not mix.
I'm in DC and NYC a lot, and the places I stay are almost always pretty quiet areas (cause I'm not staying in the hotbed touristy/party-y areas)
Even in cities, most people have average boring 9 to 5 jobs and need to sleep at night. When you get away from those particular areas (of course Times Square isnt indicative of the "norm," right?) its all pretty mundane actually.
I hate ICE motorcycle/moped for that. They're by default loud, louder than ICE car, and sometime people will mod it even louder for "safety" because they weave dangerously and want people to know they're there. It's the reason i appreciate electric motorcycle, they're so damn quiet.
The safety isn't about lane filtering so much as just intersections, but yeah it's a rubbish argument and any biker making it should shut the fuck up if they don't wear hi-vis on every ride
No, i genuinely mean weave, at high speed, because they will came in in 90/100kmph in a 60/70kmph traffic and expect people to see them. It's one of the main cause of high motorcyclist death in Malaysia.
I never understood this. When I was a wee lad I wanted a car that sounded just like KITT. Completely silent.
From what I have observed, any sane car is like that: the loudest noise is from the tires, with the engine only being louder when at low speeds or accelerating very aggressively.
Jacked up trucks with a Carolina squat and just headers, with four 14” woofers in the bed, up and down the road at 4am. Epitome of human trash.
dude...your bike is farting so loud you gave grandma a heart attack...that's not as cool as you imagine it to be :/
Somehow, it's more annoying to me when it's someone's beat up Honda Civic that they've deliberately modded to be louder than thunder. Like...really?
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