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[-] DesiDebugger@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 2 years ago

The height of banderite creativity.

[-] jackmarxist@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago

Dumbasses can't even build their own statue

[-] Dolores@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago

disgost disgusting revisionism

[-] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 2 years ago

Historical revisionism.

[-] Shrike502@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 2 years ago

The fall of USSR and its consequences have been a disaster for the human race

[-] toilet_wolf@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 2 years ago

not pictured: millions of Ukrainian red army soldiers rolling in their graves

[-] olgas_husband@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 2 years ago

specially when red army memorials from the gpw got vandalized

[-] ButtigiegMineralMap@lemmygrad.ml 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Kinda embarrassing to admit, but idk what that trident symbol means, I know it’s Ukrainian, but that’s about it, what are the origins of the symbol? Edit: I’m still confused lol

[-] goatfocker@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 2 years ago

It (supposedly) was the symbol of the Rurikovich dynasty that ruled Kievan Rus and Novgorod (and other feudal states in western Russia that I cannot recall) during the Middle Ages. Now it's mostly used by Ukranian nationalists, banderites and other fascists. IIRC it was also used by anti-soviet reactionaries and fascists in Ukraine during the 20th century

[-] Sinister@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago

Its not even a „Ukrainian“ symbol. Since for some reason they ignore that the Kievan Rus were not Ukrainians.

[-] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

By the Rurikovich crest reason it's more of an all Russian symbol since Russia as an unified state was created by Ivan III, Vasili III and Ivan IV, three consecutive rulers from the that dynasty.

[-] Barabas@hexbear.net 0 points 2 years ago

It is from old coinage of Volodymyr the Great and got adopted in 1917 after a historian suggested it (about 1000 years later).

A lot about Ukrainian identity and symbols is very post-hoc.

[-] Tankiedesantski@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago

Volodymyr the Great

"To assert our independence from Russia, we shall adopt the symbol of Vladimir the Great, Prince of Novgorod."

[-] thefreepenguinalt@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 2 years ago

Just don't tell them where Novgorod is

[-] Tankiedesantski@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago

Seems like rightful Ukranian clay to me.

[-] Sinister@hexbear.net 0 points 2 years ago

A mindset that produced mount rushmore. Defacing sacred monuments.

[-] trompete@hexbear.net 2 points 2 years ago
[-] Imnecomrade@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)
[-] ButtigiegMineralMap@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 2 years ago

Vanilla? Yea that checks out

[-] Stalins_Spoon@lemmygrad.ml 0 points 2 years ago

It will be reverted when the Russians roll into Kiev, so before the year ends

[-] comvedml@lemmygrad.ml 0 points 2 years ago

I doubt that Russians will roll that far or have the ability to destroy all Ukro forces.

[-] Stalins_Spoon@lemmygrad.ml 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Even if they don’t, it is certain that Ukraine will get a new Russian-aligned government

[-] ComradeSalad@lemmygrad.ml 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Extremely unlikely. It will at best hold onto a never ending stalemate, and at worst devolve into a loosely federated terrorist state that will fight till the last man.

This will be Afghanistan all over again. There will be no victory here.

[-] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 2 years ago

Russia managed in Chechenya, once they got their marbles together.

[-] ComradeSalad@lemmygrad.ml 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Chechnya is infinitely smaller then Ukraine or Afghanistan, with a fraction of the population, little to no industrial base, little international support, poor morale, poor infrastructure, no modern weaponry, and only one real major city.

Comparing Chechnya to Ukraine or Afghanistan seems laughable.

That’s like saying “The US could take on Grenada in days/weeks, so why did they struggle in Vietnam?”

[-] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmygrad.ml 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Chechnya is infinitely smaller then Ukraine or Afghanistan, with a fraction of the population

Seeing as how the Ukraine population do everything they can to not stay in Ukraine in multiple methods and directions, soon.

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