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[-] ButtigiegMineralMap@lemmygrad.ml 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Kinda embarrassing to admit, but idk what that trident symbol means, I know it’s Ukrainian, but that’s about it, what are the origins of the symbol? Edit: I’m still confused lol

[-] goatfocker@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 1 year ago

It (supposedly) was the symbol of the Rurikovich dynasty that ruled Kievan Rus and Novgorod (and other feudal states in western Russia that I cannot recall) during the Middle Ages. Now it's mostly used by Ukranian nationalists, banderites and other fascists. IIRC it was also used by anti-soviet reactionaries and fascists in Ukraine during the 20th century

[-] Sinister@hexbear.net 1 points 1 year ago

Its not even a „Ukrainian“ symbol. Since for some reason they ignore that the Kievan Rus were not Ukrainians.

[-] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

By the Rurikovich crest reason it's more of an all Russian symbol since Russia as an unified state was created by Ivan III, Vasili III and Ivan IV, three consecutive rulers from the that dynasty.

[-] Barabas@hexbear.net 0 points 1 year ago

It is from old coinage of Volodymyr the Great and got adopted in 1917 after a historian suggested it (about 1000 years later).

A lot about Ukrainian identity and symbols is very post-hoc.

[-] Tankiedesantski@hexbear.net 1 points 1 year ago

Volodymyr the Great

"To assert our independence from Russia, we shall adopt the symbol of Vladimir the Great, Prince of Novgorod."

[-] thefreepenguinalt@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 1 year ago

Just don't tell them where Novgorod is

[-] Tankiedesantski@hexbear.net 1 points 1 year ago

Seems like rightful Ukranian clay to me.

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