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[-] rustyfish@lemmy.world 181 points 10 months ago

A population that old and conservative loves shit like that. Also, the government urging young people to instead drink more alcohol sounds like something straight out of the Soviet Unions playbook.

[-] gencha@lemm.ee 51 points 10 months ago

Drunk people might accidentally get pregnant and help with the population. Really an obvious move

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[-] jpreston2005@lemmy.world 157 points 10 months ago

amid increasing concerns that the lack of a ban on use is promoting drug abuse by young people.

This fucking backwards ass notion of weed as a "gateway drug" needs to die. Their reasoning for calling it that shows their idiocy, in that it's called that because it's cheap and harmless, so they think it will lead to people believing other drugs are similar. Imagine branding something as dangerous because it's (Checks Notes) cheap and harmless.

Although from personal experience, I'd say that weed is a gateway drug of sorts, in that if you're addicted to something far more dangerous (like alcohol), using weed can act like a "gateway" to sobriety.

[-] cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca 69 points 10 months ago

And yet alcohol shall not be banned.

What are they thinking?

[-] CitizenKong@lemmy.world 63 points 10 months ago

And unlike cannabis use (as far as I'm aware), alcoholism is actually a real problem in Japan, because drinking alcohol is not only socially acceptable but downright enforced.

[-] Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 12 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

It's even worse, because over a third of Japanese are allergic to alcohol and probably shouldn't be consuming for increased health risk.

[-] CitizenKong@lemmy.world 19 points 10 months ago

I know what you mean, but it's not an allergy but the lack of a gene to metabolize alcohol properly. So it's more comparable to lactose intolerance (which over 70 percent of Asians also have).

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[-] Facebones@reddthat.com 16 points 10 months ago

If its like the US they get buckoo tax monies they aren't getting from canna.

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[-] krashmo@lemmy.world 46 points 10 months ago

In my experience weed can be a gateway drug when you have to buy it from a drug dealer. As an analogy, lots of people end up buying something other than what they went into Target to buy.

[-] VirtualOdour@sh.itjust.works 13 points 10 months ago

Also a criminal record can fuck your life in a myriad of ways, if like me you fall in love with someone from another country and you both have weed charges neither country will let you live together even decades later destroying what's probably your only chance at happiness.

These rules are needlessly cruel and absurd.

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[-] Shard@lemmy.world 28 points 10 months ago

Welcome to Japan, where everything, especially their mentality is fatally stuck in the glory days of the 1970/1980s.

Even today they still use fax and computer usage is the office middling and general computer literacy is abyssal.

[-] boonhet@lemm.ee 19 points 10 months ago

It's Japan. If anything is promoting drug abuse, it's the work culture.

[-] Maeve@kbin.earth 14 points 10 months ago

It's not entirely harmless, but more harmless than a lot of OTC medicines.

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[-] jlh@lemmy.jlh.name 138 points 10 months ago

This is worse than you think. Most countries don't criminalize use, only possession. Criminalizing use like Sweden does likely means that even having cannabis in your system is illegal and could lead to fines, criminal record, and jail time. It's insanely backwards.

[-] Grandwolf319@sh.itjust.works 15 points 10 months ago

What if they consumed cannabis a week before in the legal country?

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[-] TheFrirish@jlai.lu 138 points 10 months ago

but getting blind drunk in the street every night for them is fine. Ridiculous.

[-] socsa@piefed.social 34 points 10 months ago

There's a reason why countries with proper transit infrastructure view alcoholism as a novelty.

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[-] ngwoo@lemmy.world 30 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

I was shocked at how often you just see people laying passed out on the sidewalk or sleeping on a bench. Japan is an insanely different place after the bars start closing. Was genuinely uneasy with how many people everywhere just had zero control of themselves.

[-] xenoclast@lemmy.world 24 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Like smoking, alcohol is a huge industry in Japan. It's "normal" for Japanese companies to addict their employees to their products and because the companies ARE the government, they enact incredibly protectionist laws like this to prevent external competition.

Their economy depends on it. It's super gross. Like America and guns, or Sweden and flatpak furniture (the last one is a half joke)

If Japan starts being a cannabis producer, they'll 180 so fast you'll get vertigo.

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[-] FundMECFSResearch 76 points 10 months ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)

Wasn’t it already illegal?

[-] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 44 points 10 months ago

Yeah, it's news to me that it wasn't technically illegal. They still believe in the reefer madness shit and act like it.

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[-] EnderMB@lemmy.world 65 points 10 months ago

I don't like weed. I've tried it throughout my teens, but left it there.

With that said, it's amazing to me that we're still having the same conversations around drugs. Decriminalise EVERYTHING! Ensure what is on the market is clean, drive the costs down to remove criminals from the market, and dedicate every police force to protecting those on the bottom rung of the drug ladder.

I read a book from a former officer a while back, where he'd spent two years working on infiltrating a drug network. It was successful, and they not only shut down a major network of drugs, but arrested around 100 people, and removed tons of illegal weapons from the market, and arrested several people in the network known to police for being involved in several murders. They believed that the drug market in the UK during this time had been disrupted "for three hours". That was all it took for another gang to take over, and apparently it's those successes that cause a lot of people to leave drug enforcement - after all, what's the point?

There almost seems to be zero benefit to drug criminalisation, other than "old conservatives hate it".

[-] dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world 16 points 10 months ago

The police love drug criminalization because it gives them widespread latitude to hassle pretty much anybody they feel like whenever they feel like, because "drugs could be involved." Marijuana especially, since stoners are generally fairly nonthreatening folks but "I smelled marijuana" is a zero-effort way to instantly manufacture a fictitious probable cause for anything.

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[-] irotsoma@lemmy.world 62 points 10 months ago

The pant is illegal because it's cheap to grow yourself, but if you let some drug companies make money off of processing it, then it's perfectly fine to use...

[-] mynamesnotrick@lemmy.zip 50 points 10 months ago
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[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 50 points 10 months ago

Fucking idiots. Legalize and tax it. It works every time.

[-] Grandwolf319@sh.itjust.works 12 points 10 months ago

I actually think it would be detrimental to Japanese demographics.

They are already having a hard time trying to convince young people to give up their freedom and pop out more babies. Weed would only make them think more clearly, not blindly.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 22 points 10 months ago

I know you're joking but... People say that about cannabis, but there are plenty of right-wing people who love getting high. Doesn't make them think more clearly.

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[-] scarabic@lemmy.world 50 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

I work at a company that has big offices in Japan and the US (as well as many other places) and it’s pretty interesting to see the contrasts in living standards and expectations up close.

On the one hand, when coworkers visit from Japan they are disgusted by how dirty, unsafe, and uncourteous the US is by comparison. They complain endlessly about the low quality standards of the food. I picture myself having to pick worms and hair out of everything and that’s what things seem like from their perspective.

But then some of them move to the US because they can’t handle the stuffy, oppressive attitude in Japan. Everything is about what you can’t do or aren’t supposed to do. One guy said he was so relieved to go to the US where people know how to say “we can find a way to do that.”

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[-] Dasus@lemmy.world 34 points 10 months ago
[-] huquad@lemmy.ml 31 points 10 months ago

R2 we're supposed to be going up not down!

[-] General_Effort@lemmy.world 27 points 10 months ago

While the possession and cultivation of marijuana are already banned in Japan, the country will prohibit its use as well, setting a prison sentence of up to seven years for violation.

Ok, so that clears that up.

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[-] Chainslaw@lemmy.world 25 points 10 months ago

I told a guy in Tokyo we smoke weed walking down the street in America and he looked at me like I was insane.

[-] scottmeme@sh.itjust.works 23 points 10 months ago
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[-] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 19 points 10 months ago

Great way to regress in societal development.

[-] IsThisAnAI@lemmy.world 16 points 10 months ago

Just Japan doing Japan things.

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[-] JimmyBigSausage@lemm.ee 13 points 10 months ago

Great. Now the Korean mafia can get busy. 🤦🏽

[-] 11111one11111@lemmy.world 12 points 10 months ago

What a wierd fucking reason to not currently punish weed consumption and then to use such an antiquated reason to criminalize it. The whole article read like something out of 1920's-1950's America. So dumb.

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