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[-] cayde6ml@lemmygrad.ml 27 points 1 year ago

As excellent as this article is, I've had multiple conversations with Captaincool07, and I think comrades should know that he is unfortunately a Han supremacist. I hate using that term since it sounds like its giving credit to liberals, but he really is. He thinks the CPC is more of a nationalist party than a socialist one, and he thinks Vladimir Putin is a "radical centrist", and that China's success is more due to nationalism than socialism, and he once said that he thinks that China should return to controlling 25-40 percent of the entire world's economy, rather than a multipolar one.

He's also vehemently homophobic and thinks that Mao's socialism "went too far".

[-] idahocom@lemmygrad.ml 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

You can just call him a nationalist or a patsoc. The rhetoric he espouses isn't any different from Chinese nationalists of other ethnicities, and from his videos it's clear he cares about preserving minority culture/ is proud of its preservation. The few "Han nationalists" that exist live in the US or Taiwan and have a intense hatred for the mainland/the CPC and tend to be very pro-US (they both share the goal of a balkanizing China based off of ethnicity).

[-] cayde6ml@lemmygrad.ml 16 points 1 year ago

I gotta heavily disagree with the idea of him being no different than any other nationalists.

He's said before that only the Han Chinese are "smart" enough to have a successful country as China, and he believes that "full communism" is just as bad as full capitalism. I will admit maybe his views have changed and I could be wrong, and he's definitely not pro US. But he is/was very homophobic, and the bad kind of nationalist.

There are a noticeable amount of Han chauvanists in China as well. The CPC and most of the Chinese population don't agree with them though, thankfully.

同志 > 同胞

Lemme guess, he's a patsoc...

[-] cayde6ml@lemmygrad.ml 13 points 1 year ago

I don't think he is an Amerikkkan patsoc, but from my interactions with him, let's just say I wouldn't be against him receiving mental care and re-education at a Laogai.

[-] Lemmygradwontallowme@hexbear.net 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Where can I talk to this guy? Telegram?

Edit: I meant PMing personally...

[-] cayde6ml@lemmygrad.ml 6 points 1 year ago

He's on Youtube

[-] queermunist@lemmy.ml 26 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Europe is a fake continent made by fragile crackers that wanted to have their own special crackerland separate from Eurasia.

[-] comedygoblin@lemmygrad.ml 23 points 1 year ago

I've always found it weird how Europe gets to be a continent but India is only a subcontinent. I mean, I get why (white supremacy) but still

[-] Justice@lemmygrad.ml 18 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The entire idea of continents is stupid anyway, really. I understand the desire to name locations on the map for easy identification and reference, that’s fine, but the execution is arbitrary as fuck as far I can tell.

Most of the issue is Asia, Europe and, to a degree, Africa. At some point we just started using Middle East to describe the area vaguely east of Egypt and west of India. Just draw a giant fucking circle south of Russia and between those countries and call it “Middle East.” Ignore all history, ignore cultural differences. They are all one thing now.

I could definitely rant about a bunch of other shit like “Russia? The fuck is going on there?” or “Africa: Continent or country? Don’t ask Americans!” but I really just find the entire idea of continents to be kind of silly. More silly than the usual “nations are dumb” kind of way. Even more arbitrary and ultimately meaningless.

Also, everyone always says Australia is the only country and continent simultaneously. But isn’t New Zealand part of the Australian continent? Or are the Kiwis just special? (Yes, I’m trying to start shit between the Kiwis and the ‘stralians). What about Antarctica. Google? What the fuck is google? No thanks, I’m just typing and guessing shit now. It’s like advanced Wikipedia perverts. They read made up shit and believe it. I just make shit up and ask easily answered questions.

Edit: apparently I posted this last night in a weird half-sleep state. I apologize for nothing. My brain is weird.

[-] redtea@lemmygrad.ml 18 points 1 year ago

I like to call it Eurafrica when I'm talking with libs. They dislike being reminded that the foundations of European culture were almost all developed in Africa.

Then when they'd stolen all they could, they forgot about the continent and plummeted into the dark ages until they met west Asians, whose scholarly outputs helped backwards Europe to turn the lights back on.

After draining all they could, they stagnated again until they found the Americas, where they found parliamentary democracy and many other theretofore inconceivable inventions.

Marx called it primitive accumulation when the capitalists started doing it but Europeans have been propping themselves up on the heritage of the rest of the world for millennia. I guess Europe could be called 'Thievesope' but that is a bit tautologous.

[-] queermunist@lemmy.ml 15 points 1 year ago

Yeah, the two supposed methods for finding continental boundaries are geology and culture, which makes absolutely no sense for Crackerland. My brain worms demand I point out that the Isthmus of Suez is, at least, a distinct geological feature.

But the so-called boundary they drew on Eurasia is (from Wikipedia) "along the Turkish straits, the Caucasus, and the Urals and the Ural River (historically also north of the Caucasus, along the Kuma–Manych Depression or along the Don River)". That's such obvious nonsense lol

[-] Shrike502@lemmygrad.ml 6 points 1 year ago

the foundations of European culture were almost all developed in Africa.

Could you elaborate on this, please?

[-] iridaniotter@lemmygrad.ml 10 points 1 year ago

If Europe is fake, shouldn't it be Asia not Eurasia lol.

[-] queermunist@lemmy.ml 16 points 1 year ago

It could be! But when I say it's fake, I'm saying it's a subcontinent. It exists but there's no material reason for Europe to be its own continent while the Indian subcontinent is part of Asia. Crackers just wanted a crackerland.

[-] iridaniotter@lemmygrad.ml 8 points 1 year ago

For sure, it's ridiculous that India (and Arabia) is excluded but Europe is not. Eurindarasia is a little silly sounding though...

[-] bobs_guns@lemmygrad.ml 5 points 1 year ago

Why not just call it all Asia then. Genuine question.

[-] SouthEndSunset@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago

You’re definitely American.

[-] Starlet@hexbear.net 21 points 1 year ago
[-] SouthEndSunset@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago

I think, apart from to racists, Europe is just a reference to a region.

[-] queermunist@lemmy.ml 13 points 1 year ago

An arbitrary region with no material or geological basis. They just drew a line and said "this is where Europe ends and Asia begins". Nonsense.

[-] huf@hexbear.net 7 points 1 year ago

they didnt draw a line, they drew 272 different lines.

europe is the UK and france

europe is the EU

europe is anything west of russia

europe is anything up to the urals

europe is whatever people want it to mean in that particular moment.

[-] SouthEndSunset@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

More or less how it works. Your country isn’t special.

[-] queermunist@lemmy.ml 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

First off, god damn America. All my homies hate America.

Now that that's out of the way, Europe and Asia are not countries. In fact! The dividing line between Europe and Asia runs through a damn country. That's such obvious nonsense. Europe is just Crackerland, its so-called boundary runs through a country lol

It's Eurasia dwi

[-] SouthEndSunset@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago

People like you are as annoying as white supremacists.

[-] queermunist@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The problem with white supremacy is that it is annoying, not that it's lead to ethnic cleansing and internal colonization and mass incarceration.

Cool and normal opinion dude! 👍

[-] SouthEndSunset@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

Sorry, I was being facetious and dry. Wasn’t really sure what to do with your xenophobic/quasi racist bullshit.

Should Europeans/anyone be likening Russians to Asians in a negative sense? No.

Is it ok to make low key racist comments about Europeans and talk about them like they’re a single racist hive mind? Also no.

[-] queermunist@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago

The White/European identity was and is a deliberate invention to enable colonialism and chattel slavery and imperialist hyper exploitation.

You just don't want to be Eurasian.

[-] SouthEndSunset@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

I’m sure it is.

Couldn’t give a fuck what I am. White supremacy is for fuckwits and is just destructive.

[-] Kuori@hexbear.net 5 points 1 year ago

people like you very often are white supremacists. no one else benefits from trying to equivocate between someone being "annoying" and someone who wants to exterminate non-white people

[-] SouthEndSunset@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

It’s not ok to generalise an entire group of people though.

[-] GaveUp@hexbear.net 4 points 1 year ago

You're starting to sound like a Russian agitating division agent lol

[-] SouthEndSunset@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

Just don’t like insulting people or generalising.

[-] SineNomineAnonymous@lemmy.ml 20 points 1 year ago

Never - ever - forget that the only thing Erdogan had to do every time he wanted to have his way with the EU (and he always got it), all he had to do was "Imma open the borders into Europe".

Because to a European, there is no greater threat they can imagine than a destitute brown person.

That's the EU and what it stands for.

[-] ksynwa@lemmygrad.ml 16 points 1 year ago

Jesus Christ that magazine cover is something else

[-] Kodemystic@lemmy.kodemystic.dev 14 points 1 year ago

Asians are not human? What?

[-] GrainEater@lemmygrad.ml 13 points 1 year ago

the point is that many Europeans are racist against Asian people (among others) and they're "placing" Russia in Asia rather than Europe for this reason

[-] SineNomineAnonymous@lemmy.ml 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

To your average Westerner no.

You can check that by just having a look at Facebook and articles about China, reddit and link to articles about China or a quick peep at the comment section of any article on China.

Pretty much shit like this lol

  • Any picture with an Asian with a pet dog or cat, can guess what the comments will have (unless it's an attractive person which will attract the yellow fever types)

  • The murderous glee they show when fake rumours of a three gorges dam collapse pops up for the 50th time

  • "Just the government not the people... but it would be real nice if they suffered so we could buy some cheap slaves" type sentiment

  • Chinese can't think for themselves, we enlightened liberal saviours have decreed that they are oppressed and only the Libya treatment will free them

[-] appel@whiskers.bim.boats 12 points 1 year ago

Flagrant racism on multiple levels, it is horrendous to see it flaunted in broad daylight. They say first one racist thing and then back it up with orientalism.

[-] jackmarxist@hexbear.net 12 points 1 year ago

Classic Nazi propaganda

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