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[-] themachine@lemmy.world 93 points 10 months ago

Well that's an easy fix. I just won't use those apps.

[-] KomfortablesKissen@discuss.tchncs.de 52 points 10 months ago

So no banking apps for you? I agree that this is shit, but pretending we are not hit by this is not helping.

Also, I don't really use banking apps anyway because they already pull similar shit and I can get around it. For now.

[-] Ghoelian@lemmy.dbzer0.com 20 points 10 months ago

Fortunately so far I haven't come across a bank here in the Netherlands that wouldn't work because my phone was rooted or because I'm running grapheneos. Hope it stays that way too.

[-] themachine@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago

Correct. I've never used banking apps in the first place anyway. If my bank doesnt have a functional website then I would change banks.

And i say this not to be difficult or contrarian. I just really hate using apps for every business in existence and simply refuse to do so. Yes I have absolutely sacrificed convenience on many occasions due to this principal.

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[-] Mr_Blott@feddit.uk 5 points 10 months ago

Is there any reason anyone would want to use an out of date banking app?

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[-] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 4 points 10 months ago

Banking on the phone is absurd concept that I will never use

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[-] Ghoelian@lemmy.dbzer0.com 65 points 10 months ago

Not a single app on my phone was installed through Google Play, it's all Aurora. Guess if apps really do this i'll just have to stop using them, cause I'm not installing the play store.

[-] Mwa@lemm.ee 10 points 10 months ago

I wish i can degoogle my phone but its a few months old so no rom support and its a samsung :<

[-] ReversalHatchery@beehaw.org 11 points 10 months ago

this is the reason phone selection for me is based on what it supports.

but samsungs are ruled out anyway. their service centers desttoys your phone if you have asserted your ownership of it, their software is way too unnecessarily complicated (not the part you see, but the low level part that complicates the flashing process), and they are generally a garbage company.

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[-] cleverusername@lemm.ee 62 points 10 months ago

What if I sideload purely to downgrade a bugged app? Just seems like yet another kick in the teeth by Google.

[-] Chozo@fedia.io 10 points 10 months ago

Google's only providing the option, it's up to individual devs to enable it on their app. If the app developer has chosen to block sideloading, then they probably have a reason for going out of their way to do so. Whatever you find that reason to be should inform your decision whether or not to continue using their app.

[-] doctortran@lemm.ee 58 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Their reasons mean nothing. It's my device. I shouldn't have to worry about an application installed on my device being policed because the developer got a hair up their ass about people downgrading.

The phrase "more secure" is becoming meaningless as it keeps being used as a blanket excuse for literally every user hostile change.

[-] Chozo@fedia.io 12 points 10 months ago

Sure, it's your device. But it's their app. Ultimately, it's the developer's call to make. You don't have to use their app.

[-] ReversalHatchery@beehaw.org 10 points 10 months ago

unless you are forced to use it, by government, employer, or such

[-] Chozo@fedia.io 4 points 10 months ago

Well then you know where to install it from.

[-] ReversalHatchery@beehaw.org 5 points 10 months ago

from google play? on my degoogled phone?

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[-] woodgen@lemm.ee 6 points 10 months ago

We can still use their app with a little help from my reverse engineering tools.

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[-] Virkkunen@fedia.io 23 points 10 months ago

Explain to me what would be the good reasons McDonald's has to block their app from running on a rooted device because it doesn't pass SafetyNet or whatever Google is calling it now

[-] Chozo@fedia.io 4 points 10 months ago

Why would I explain something that has nothing to do with this discussion? This has nothing to do with rooted devices.

[-] Ghoelian@lemmy.dbzer0.com 22 points 10 months ago

It's the same system, it's all part of play integrity. And that also applies to this bullshit, why does McDonald's care if I didn't install their app from the play store?

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[-] redditReallySucks@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 10 months ago

I thought you could not downgrade non-debuggable apps?

[-] oldfart@lemm.ee 18 points 10 months ago

But you can uninstall them and install a lower version

[-] sour@feddit.org 10 points 10 months ago

You can always uninstall and install an older apk.

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[-] HotsauceHurricane@lemmy.one 60 points 10 months ago

BOOOOO!

YOUR DECISIONS ARE BAD AND YOU SHOULD FEEL BAD.

google, not op

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[-] sorghum@sh.itjust.works 57 points 10 months ago

time to demand apps in other repositories. Bonus if it's f-droid compatible

[-] Nawor3565 53 points 10 months ago

Aw shit, it says this is supposed to detect when an app's binary has been tampered with... That means it's probably gonna be used to block stuff like ReVanced. I hope they can find a way around this that doesn't require root.

[-] altima_neo@lemmy.zip 30 points 10 months ago

Nah, revanced will just patch that out too!

[-] Vakbrain@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

I guess Revanced would eventually have a patch to skip this check. It can already spoof the client and such, why not this as well. I hope so

[-] Zak@lemmy.world 43 points 10 months ago

The whole tech world saw Microsoft Palladium as a nightmare scenario, but was quiet ten years later when Apple and Google did the same thing to our phones. That was a mistake.

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[-] OmegaLemmy@discuss.online 41 points 10 months ago

Can we also sue Google for the same shit as apple? Sideloading isn't enough.

[-] archchan@lemmy.ml 18 points 10 months ago

Google Play IS my "sideloading" app repository.

[-] chottomatte@lemdro.id 12 points 10 months ago

Some paid apps actually prevents the user from using it if it's not paid from Google play

[-] Clent@lemmy.world 7 points 10 months ago

Are you suggesting such an app can be purchased outside Google play but not used?

Having an app check a license server isn't exactly new. Google play is simply a third party license server.

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[-] Xenny@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago

That's fine I rarely download apps that want to be on the Play store anyway

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