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Banks hit with $549 million in fines for use of Signal, WhatsApp to evade regulators’ reach::Wells Fargo, a relatively small player on Wall Street, racked up the most fines Tuesday, with a total of $200 million in penalties.

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[-] mojo@lemm.ee 205 points 2 years ago

Private speech is never the problem and should absolutely be encouraged as a human right. The problem here is them avoiding regulators and should get fucked for that alone, that's the crime here. Signal and Whatsapp should not be mentioned at all and this is an attempt to push "encryption bad" narrative.

[-] treadful@lemmy.zip 52 points 2 years ago

Yeah, the issue is evading records keeping requirements. The issue is not encrypted communications.

These articles make me pucker my asshole. Like it could be that thing that sends us down that slippery slope.

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[-] flumph@programming.dev 37 points 2 years ago

I worked at a firm that was regulated and audited by the SEC. The standard lesson from the compliance department was always to have potentially problematic conversations out loud instead of in email or Slack. They never needed encryption to avoid regulators.

[-] cyberpunk007@lemmy.world 16 points 2 years ago

Never considered this angle but you're right.

[-] broguy89@lemm.ee 14 points 2 years ago

I see this as a "yes, Signal is secure, look, they used it and are getting away with it too" narrative.

[-] hackitfast@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago

I thought about that already. It's absolutely intentional, because you already know that they'll keep using those apps, and even if they were illegal, they would keep using them and just get another fine, which is obviously not something that bothers them. It's to prevent normal people from having any privacy.

[-] ultratiem@lemmy.ca 49 points 2 years ago

And made $5 billion on the deal. I imagine it’s like “oh right, now we have to pay off the regulators, I mean the fine.”

[-] Oneobi@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago

Its a shit show. Staff can't event send a text saying they are sick unless they use an approved business communication channel.

Worst still, if you receive said comms from staff on a non approved channel, eg your personal phone, you have to report it to HR.

There is no way bank's can operate like that so the regulator is going to be lining their pockets for quite some time.

[-] Mojojojo1993@lemmy.world 35 points 2 years ago

Oh no. In other news banks keep breaking the law and using our money to pay fines.

Remove banks. Leach on society that provide nothing. Yet they are the reason we can't frolic in the meadows.

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[-] cunning_bolt@lemmy.world 34 points 2 years ago

These really need to be reported as percentage of revenue. It's really not that much for them.

[-] anon_water@lemmy.ml 32 points 2 years ago

It’s always Wells Fargo with the law breaking.

[-] Skyrmir@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago

It's the American version of HSBC

[-] mountainman131@lemmy.world 13 points 2 years ago

Of course it's Wells Fargo!

[-] AndreyAsimow@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago

It is finally time for FOSS banks

[-] plebonix@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago

Quantum computers accessible only to the rich and powerful can't get here soon enough..

[-] snek_boi@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 years ago

Are you saying that quantum computers could help the rich encrypt their communications better?

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[-] Etterra@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago

That isn't a fine. That's the cutest if doing business to these assholes. I keep saying it, fines need to be calculated on a logarithmic scale based on income and net assets. That goes for everything from a speeding ticket to wire fraud - literally every crime with a fine as punishment.

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[-] shadowspirit@geddit.social 7 points 2 years ago

We know most banks are scummy but Wells Fargo takes the cake. That bank is always wrapped up in some BS. If WAMU can fail we should go ahead and let Wells Fargo become extinct.

[-] Reborn2966@feddit.it 7 points 2 years ago

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[-] Deiv@lemmy.ca 22 points 2 years ago

U.S. regulators on Tuesday announced a combined $549 million in penalties against Wall Street firms that failed to maintain electronic records of employee communications.

The Securities and Exchange Commission announced charges against 11 firms for “widespread and longstanding failures” to maintain records, including by allowing employees to use unsupervised side channels such as messaging apps WhatsApp and Signal, the regulator said.

Wells Fargo was the biggest U.S. bank cited Tuesday in the sweeping actions.

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[-] LilPappyWigwam@lemm.ee 12 points 2 years ago

Good nonbot

[-] Disgusted_Tadpole@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 years ago

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[-] yoz@aussie.zone 6 points 2 years ago

Chump change for banks. Cost of doing business already sitting with the accounts team.

[-] LEDZeppelin@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago

That’s chump change

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