What if you're pirating to avoid agreeing to an EULA that lets a giant corporation murder your family members?
Yeah, that lawsuit from last week is also why I started pirating 20 years ago.
Try the Sony BMG Rootkit, contained on music CDs:
In 2005 it was revealed that the implementation of copy protection measures on about 22 million CDs distributed by Sony BMG installed one of two pieces of software that provided a form of digital rights management (DRM) by modifying the operating system to interfere with CD copying. Neither program could easily be uninstalled, and they created vulnerabilities that were exploited by unrelated malware. One of the programs would install and "phone home" with reports on the user's private listening habits, even if the user refused its end-user license agreement (EULA), while the other was not mentioned in the EULA at all. Both programs contained code from several pieces of copylefted free software in an apparent infringement of copyright, and configured the operating system to hide the software's existence, leading to both programs being classified as rootkits.
I have a few of those CD's. They also have copy protection to keep people from copying the CD's. It doesn't work.
You can't really have effective copy protection on any disc that can be played in a basic CD player; they're just too simple.
So Sony's approach was to put an autorun installer for a 'music player' on the disk too. If installed, it attempted to lock your CD drive from being used by any other software and couldn't be easily uninstalled. And they pirated open-source software (yes, that's possible) to build it.
SMH My Head.
Even if it did we's still find a way to copy it. I copy Ultra HD-Blu-rays I purchase to my hdd as a backup. DRM only serves to punish those who actually spend money on media.
Then you're violating the law! Just agree to the 40 page legalese text as if you were on an equal footing.
Still not theft.
I'm fine with people calling piracy theft, if it means they'll pirate more.
I'm over here pirating things because I don't want to pay for them but I'll probably never watch/play them. Which side of the image am I?
I guess if you aren't consuming then you must just really enjoy the theft aspect of it. You're on the right
Once unskippable warnings and ads appeared on DVDs I bought, I became a lost cause.
b-b-but it's not theft 😢
Semantically doesn’t matter much.
If a peach seller has a harvest of 1,000 peaches that will go bad in a week, he doesn’t care about “only having 940 peaches” when someone steals 60 of them. He cares that he spent all that effort and money growing the peaches on the bet he’d make a profit, rented the shop space in the market, hired an assistant to bag and sell them, and some douchebag still didn’t pay for them.
The quantity of product a seller maintains is generally almost completely irrelevant to the costs. It’s about the societal expectations of paying your due to people who have put work into something you want.
Ok so alternatively, instead of "stealing" peaches, I pay $10 monthly for Peaches+, which means I get to look at the peaches whenever I want to until they go bad. Sometimes new peaches arrive but they rarely look as good as the previous ones. Then when I eventually cancel my Peaches+ subscription I still don't own a single peach even though I paid a lot of money.
You Wouldn’t Look At A Peach…
Let's say that no matter how much is "stolen" the peach seller has an infinite inventory. It never depletes, and it never goes bad.
The peach seller takes all the money, increases the selling price of the peach, and each peach you buy is a contract that allows the seller to kill your wife.
Yeah, you’re right, sorry, we can’t have a concept of intellectual property without Disney mandating we attach a murder clause into it. That’s certainly not stretching the argument.
There's a little concept known as Intellectual Property that begs to differ
If someone steals my bike, I lose ownership of the bike, that's theft.
If I pirate a movie, Disney still owns the movie.
If I buy a game, I don't even own that copy of the game??
In my opinion, theft is a bit more nuanced than that. You pirating the game denies the producers of the game the profit they would have otherwise derived from you purchasing the game
no because otherwise I simply wouldn't have bought it
That's why it's called piracy, not theft.
When people hear the concept of thought crimes described to them, they rightfully recoil in disgust at that kind of dystopic idea. However, euphemize the concept as intellectual property, and for some reason, most people are fine with it.
I have no idea what a "though crime" is, but if your intent is to antagonise IP laws then you're probably not a very creative person
If buying isn't owning, piracy isn't theft. It is something else.
Theft is such an ugly word. It's really taking from the rich and giving to the poor.
Keep robbin', stay hoodin'.
You pirate content to save money and protest the excesses of capitalism.
I pirate content because I enjoy singing sea shanties with the mates while seeding torrents.
We are not the same.
I am a willing kleptomaniac
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Because I'm a cheap bastard.
And also because I'm a third worlder and piracy is my only access.
Why not both?
If purchasing doesn't convey ownership, copying cannot be theft.
Underrated comment. Upvote it more
If you can’t own it, you might as well “steal it”
But hey, property is theft anyways so who the fuck cares if I copy media without paying the ghouls who “own” the work made by other people they pay pennies of their dollar
My friend (an old lady unfamiliar with pirates) bought a dvd the other day. A comedy from 15 years ago.
It had been censored. Offensive dialogue dubbed over. No warning on rhe package.
Yo ho forever.
Morality is a great tool for justifying legal enforcement of my desires. All it takes is a good argument connecting the two.
The arguments are getting less good here tho. They're getting very thin and flimsy.
What would happen if we threw away the moral argument?
What if instead of offering a moral argument for why you shouldn't pirate their movies, Disney just said "come at me bro"?
Based theft of pixels on screen
And the selection is VASTLY superior.
Instead of accessing only what netflix is "offering" today, I have access to EVERYTHING. All the time. Forever. Even obscure weird old stuff.
The entire body of media created by the human race is mine!
You can also say that you download games from green steam *torrent
I just like getting my dumb blorbos without having to have a spreadsheet of where to find them scattered over 20 different services
I pirate because I want to watch Last Exile now, not 3 months ago when Hulu had the rights to it, and not some time in the future when they may acquire the rights again
Also it's easier than finding physical copies of 30 year old OVAs
I was just sick of looking through several apps to see if I had access to something.
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