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[-] FReddit@lemmy.world 141 points 1 year ago

And people will be dismembered if they fail to comply.

[-] Blackmist@feddit.uk 111 points 1 year ago

Well that's handy, because thanks to the EU that's what everything will be using anyway.

What else are they going to mandate? That sand remains course and irritating? Or more likely demand that the rest of the world stops laughing at their Jetsons city idea.

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[-] scarabic@lemmy.world 54 points 1 year ago

Prince ibin-whateverface is an Android user and finds lightning annoying. That’s all this says to me. He’s not wrong, btw. For once.

[-] xavier666@lemm.ee 14 points 1 year ago

See? This is how you should use your authoritarian powers

[-] simple@lemm.ee 35 points 1 year ago

There is a second stage, starting from April 1, 2026, which will apply to laptops and portable computers.

I'm with them on small devices using USB C, but all laptops is a pretty tall task. Can gaming laptops that need a high voltage even use USB-C? They already struggle with massive charging bricks and thick cables.

[-] Voyajer@lemmy.ml 56 points 1 year ago

The latest USB power delivery standard allows for new voltages of 28, 36, and 48 volts at up to 240 watts at 48V. My current Dell workstation laptop uses two 20V USB C connectors to achieve similar.

[-] grue@lemmy.ml 17 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I'm imaginining some kind of monstrosity of a gaming laptop with a power cable that looks like a hydra splitting into three or four USB-C connectors, and it's gloriously silly.

Maybe it's time for a new thing similar to USB 3.0 micro B, with two USB-C connectors next to each other on the same plug.

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[-] Mic_Check_One_Two@reddthat.com 10 points 1 year ago

I’m chuckling at the idea of someone plugging in an early USB-C device and watching it go up in flames as it gets hit with 48v instead of the 5v that it’s rated for. I know USB-C has a chip that is supposed to negotiate power transfer, but it’s still a funny “what if” thought.

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[-] JoYo@lemmy.ml 12 points 1 year ago

your gaming laptop is struggling because gaming laptops are scams. you'll never get the performance you want and you'll pay the premium anyways.

[-] min0nim@aussie.zone 11 points 1 year ago

Not gaming (obviously!) but the2019 MacBook Pro has a 140W USB-C charger to a single port.

[-] mark3748@geddit.social 11 points 1 year ago

2019 is 96w charger. 140w is 2021 or later.

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[-] NekkoDroid@programming.dev 10 points 1 year ago

I recently bought a gaming laptop. Specifically a Lenovo Legion 5 with a rx 6600. It has both the big powerbrick charger and can be charged via USB-PD, obv not at the same speed but it is an option that is available.

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[-] TenderfootGungi@lemmy.world 20 points 1 year ago

The problem with these types of mandates is it locks us into standards and makes change hard. Imagine if they had done this when the terrible USB port was dominant.

Or, it gives all the power to the USB group. They have a terrible track record (USB-C is a mess).

The other problem is all the cheap devices that have a USB-C port, but will not charge from a real USB-C to USB-C cable. They are the same old USB ports electrically with a new shape.

These are bad laws with good intents.

[-] Ranessin@feddit.de 49 points 1 year ago

Standards can be updated. Like the EU standard was from Micro-USB to USB-C. It happens all the time in all fields of technology.

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[-] moitoi@feddit.de 31 points 1 year ago

It's locking nobody with no standard. The standard is evolving time to time. This argument of locking the user which by the way is the same as "competition is the better" is the Apple argument to impose it's locked (walled garden) ecosystem.

It's well known strategy to argue in a way that isn't your goal to achieve another one. Apple is a master here. They use this same strategy with the future mandatory easy battery replacement.

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[-] Mic_Check_One_Two@reddthat.com 11 points 1 year ago

God that last one drives me up a fucking wall. My partner’s laptop refuses to charge with anything except the officially supported power adapter, even though it’s just a USB-C connector. Everything I’ve plugged it into has been rated for the 100W that the laptop needs to charge, but the damned device locks out anything except official chargers under the guise of safety.

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[-] atzanteol@sh.itjust.works 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

There is a second stage, starting from April 1, 2026, which will apply to laptops and portable computers.

I hate this type of legislation. Almost zero USB chargers can power a laptop. But politicians don't know that. So this won't reduce the number of chargers. Unless they're requiring all charges support the full PD spec?

Leave standards to experts.

Edited: Yes i fucking know many laptops use USB-C power now. You're not smart in telling me this. I mean that most USB chargers are cheap crap that can't put out enough power to run a laptop. Not all USB is the same.

[-] stillwater@lemm.ee 40 points 1 year ago

They don't mean laptops have to run off of a phone charger. It says they need USB-C charging ports. Many laptops already run power via a USB-C slot right now.

[-] wasabi@feddit.de 27 points 1 year ago

...and you can charge your phone with the laptop USB-C charger just fine.

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[-] SlopppyEngineer@lemmy.world 20 points 1 year ago

Leave standards to experts.

That's what everybody did at first. It gave us a different connector for each device. After a few decades, there are still competing standards. Either the experts are incompetent, or the business environment they're in doesn't incentivize single standards.

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[-] Cheese@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago

It does not say that it has to ONLY have UBC-C charging, my laptop will charge from USB-C and the dedicated charging port. I wonder if that would be complaint.

[-] electromage@lemm.ee 14 points 1 year ago

I have 6 laptops that can charge from type-C, including from battery banks and the last "cell phone" charger I got (OnePlus 9).

[-] mandolrain@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

What do you mean? My M1 MacBook charges just fine on USB-C. Do you mean that 1A USB chargers can’t do the job? Cause they can’t

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[-] isVeryLoud@lemmy.ca 11 points 1 year ago

???

Most laptops charge over USB C nowadays

[-] stu@lemmy.pit.ninja 8 points 1 year ago

I don't know exactly what the percentage of new laptops that can use USB-C charging is, but it's a pretty large percentage. My Lenovo Yoga came with a USB-C charger and that's all it uses for charging. That said, I actually do agree with you that this is not really a problem for laptops and IMHO it's often a lot easier to fix/replace a broken DC barrel type charging port than a USB port on a laptop because a DC barrel generally just has 2 relatively large solder points. I'm a lot more nervous handling my laptop with a USB-C charging cable attached than I would be with a DC barrel. However, I'm in favor of legislation that reduces the number of proprietary port standards (like Lightning).

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[-] Fluke@discuss.online 13 points 1 year ago

Will this global push end up limiting miniaturization of electronics? Even if it does, may still be a worthwhile tradeoff.

[-] DauntingFlamingo@lemmy.ml 13 points 1 year ago

It aims to eliminate waste by reducing the number of cords and plugs required for various devices. It will surely have to be upgraded and miniaturized as tech progresses, but for now it's one everyone is agreeing on.

One aspect to consider for miniature devices is wireless charging. My watch and my headphones don't even have a port

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