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[-] Chozo@fedia.io 61 points 1 month ago

Hemp-derived THC-infused sparkling water, he lamented, can be found—including by minors—alongside more benign products like La Croix.

So? Minors can "find" beer next to the La Croix, too. Doesn't mean the cashier has to sell it to them. Just had to throw in some useless "think of the children" fearmongering, huh?

[-] Sarmyth@lemmy.world 15 points 1 month ago

Nothing makes me automatically assume someone is lying to me faster than a "think of the children" campaign.

[-] b3an@lemmy.world 46 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Standing next to a table piled with largely unregulated products containing hemp-derived cannabinoids, including beverages and gummies, Newsom expressed disgust that they’re now widely sold at grocery stores, gas stations and convenience stores. Hemp-derived THC-infused sparkling water, he lamented, can be found—including by minors—alongside more benign products like La Croix.

“It’s a disgrace and it’s a shame,” the governor said, “and the industry bears full responsibility for not policing itself, for the proliferation of these intoxicating products that are hurting our children.”

When has ‘the industry policing itself’ ever worked? It should be policy or have been considered before implementing the marijuana law in the first place. Earmark money set aside for regulatory needs. Enforce labels. Beer isn’t sold next to the soda in the same fridge usually. Same should be for like THC candies etc.

[-] we_avoid_temptation@lemmy.zip 20 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Newsom announced new emergency regulations on Friday that would outlaw hemp products with any “detectable amount of total THC.” Hemp products that don’t have THC would be further limited to five servings per package, and sales would be restricted to adults 21 and older.

So:

A. He banned all hemp flower and most hemp-derived products in CA in one fell swoop because he doesn't understand how the relation of THC:CBD works in the plant or the entourage effect or the fact that federally it's a total of 0.3% maximum, which ain't getting anybody high.

B. He limited packaging for what reason, exactly? It doesn't get you high. Even if it did, why?

C. An age limit, that I can agree with. It should probably be 18 for this like it is most everywhere else in the US, but if you want people to be able to die for their country and can't have a CBD gummy, go ahead Newsom.

Age, testing, and labeling requirements are great. Unscientific regulations by executive order that will make people's lives worse are not.

[-] ultranaut@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago

Hemp derived products compete directly with legal weed in the state but are outside the established regulatory regime for legal weed.

[-] RedAggroBest@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

This is the actual reason that he's doing this. They can't properly regulate hemp stuff like they can legal weed. There's no good testing requirements for hemp products like there are for legal weed you get in a dispo

But nooooo everyone on Lemmy would rather scream that they're taking away their drugs. I thought for a while Lemmy would be better about not senselessly reacting to headlines

[-] aStonedSanta@lemm.ee 5 points 1 month ago

You have a fundamental misunderstanding of the federal law. It’s .3% delta 9 thc. THCa the acidic form of delta 9 thc before conversion through heat is not controlled at any limit.

[-] we_avoid_temptation@lemmy.zip 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I am aware of the difference. The terminology is confusing and I was kinda stoned while typing that.

He specifically said "any detectable amount of total THC" though, which means the difference is moot. Total THC is THCA in this context.

EDIT:

So there is no miscommunication, yeah federal law allows a max of 0.3% D9 THC at the pre-harvest test (I forget the exact specifics, it's been a while). Newsom said CBD that contains any detectable percentage of total THC is banned in the state of California by executive order with no oversight. The scientific facts of the latter are not the same as the former and Newsom is an idiot for thinking they are.

[-] aStonedSanta@lemm.ee 3 points 1 month ago

You sir are correct. My apologies!

[-] we_avoid_temptation@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 month ago

No worries. I wasn't super clear originally and it's confusing as hell tbh. I just want people to be able to access things they find helpful

[-] sabreW4K3@lazysoci.al 18 points 1 month ago
[-] Today@lemmy.world 13 points 1 month ago

Because it cuts into profits and taxes from dispensaries.

[-] ShepherdPie@midwest.social 7 points 1 month ago

I think this is more accurately the reason why he's making a big deal. They tax every sale from the dispensary.

[-] electric_nan@lemmy.ml 16 points 1 month ago

Fuck this dude. The day after the supreme court ruled that cities can outlaw homelessness, he leveraged the ruling in CA. This is the type of shit you get from a auper-lib governor, in a super-lib state. To be clear: fuuuuuck the republicans, but dems aren't actually trying to do the shit they represent either. I'm not here with some alternative that will fix our shit real soon, but CA is a good example of the dems having all the power, and still working against the people.

[-] MaxPow3r11@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago

Fuck these fascists.

[-] RedAggroBest@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago

Seeing Lemmy act like he's banning weed... Y'all suck. Hemp products in California are solely to get around the state required testing and other regulations. Plus they aren't taxed the same way, which is a big part of the fucking sell on legal weed.

No state with legal weed should need untested hemp-derived products. Just go to a dispo and get something that you know what's in it.

[-] model_tar_gz@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago

Dude, it’s nigh-impossible to find cannabis that’s 1:1 CBD:THC; let alone cannabis that’s not astronomic levels of THC. Type2 hemp flower fits the niche almost perfectly, but now that fuckface is going to make that illegal.

I don’t really want to get blitzed and I’m not really a fan of stoner culture even though I live in socal and literally surf and code next to many of them. But the CBD +lowTHC helps me tame anxiety and manage some other mental health shit that interferes with my best life.

[-] blindbunny@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 month ago

Yeah ok freddy

[-] sparky@lemmy.federate.cc 2 points 1 month ago

Really glad this is the priority instead of dealing with the massive homeless crisis or the fentanyl epidemic.

this post was submitted on 07 Sep 2024
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