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Bitches with degrees
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Bitches with degrees also get two days off a week.
Well sure but a decent, independent escort in a city is easily pulling in $200-$500 per client, seeing more than one client per day, and getting paid in cash. There are some expenses to account for but it's pretty feasible to net six figures over the course of a year working just 5 days a week... or so I've heard.
Most SWers get paid per hour, not per client, and that ranges depending on the city, generally $500/hr on average for full service. Most are not high volume (danger goes up from both clients and authorities, which is why high volume tends to not be as intimate and tends to be in a building for that purpose, eg happy ending massages, bunny ranches. Or high volume tends to be strippers who can find clients quickly and easily). Most tend to see men mostly on weekends (demand). Even so, it's still lucrative, can be a good side hustle, and gives you a lot of free time.
There are other payment structures as well. I am a Dominatrix, so how I personally structure my payments are a little different and my relationships with my subs are a little different (nonsexual sex work). I'm extremely low volume, I require ongoing relationships (no one and done), I take on 1-3 subs at maximum. Because I do this, I have very high payment thresholds, which are not hourly but instead usually weekly or monthly and usually include extras like gifts, travel, apartments, etc. I also get a small amount of money through the porn/nudes I make, which are really just advertising for my Dominatrix business (I honestly do not enjoy taking nudes at all, it's not very fun for me).
I partially do this payment structure because of the special relationship of a Domme/sub and things like sub drop, where I may need to be "on call" and available for my subs. BDSM is trauma work, I am confident about that, and subs can be triggered and may need extra assistance afterwards. I do not think it's ethical to do the kind of trauma work that is required in BDSM and then retraumatize them by repeating patterns of neglect and abuse. The healing part of BDSM is that the nightmare ends and gets addressed, or is transformed in some way.
I have a pretty good life. I get to travel all over and I get to do everything I want to do. I have a ton of free time as well. I don't think I'd enjoy being a different type of SWer but I do love being a Dominatrix a LOT. Something about telling a millionaire he's a pathetic baby unfit to lick my feet while he's groveling on his floor in a maid dresss really does it for me 🤌
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True. But the original post was bragging about working 365 days per year.
Some expenses like paying for drugs so you're able to do that without feeling like killing yourself, paying your pimp that needs to pay your driver/bodyguard... In the end you might as well just get that degree instead.
If you've got a pimp, then you're not independent.
Whaaa lol my word
https://www.addictioncenter.com/community/jobs-highest-addiction-rates/
Many of these jobs with degrees still have high rates of drug use so idk. Kinda seems like society is fucked up in general and just a lot of adults are on a drug of some kind every day. Including caffeine
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33323428/
Majority of UK women sex workers are drug users, specifically of heroin or crack cocaine
Participants: Females aged 18 years or older, who have sold sex on the street and used heroin and/or crack cocaine at least once a week in the last calendar month.
That study is looking at STREET sex workers only, and wasn't assessing it's claim of what percentage are on drugs but instead assessing treatment for them. Their inclusion criteria was that the person was already using drugs and on the street... so ofc 100% of these workers will be using drugs because that's the criteria. Also, SWers who are on the street are not a common group of SWer (even though they are very visible and stereotypical) since vast majority is done through online means or through popular hangouts like bars etc. If you're advertising on the street, it's because you likely can't get into bars or hotels (banned for soliciting or look obviously not well).
Just seems like a bad study that has an n=11 which is super low.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Street_prostitution
Street SWers are different than other SWers^^^
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Not everyone needs drugs to feel good about the work they're doing. Sounds like a personal problem to me. Not sure why pimps come into the picture, and body guards and drivers just sound like wise investments if you can afford them in this day and age.
It's just the reality of the work we're talking about in this conversation, drug use is extremely common in that field. Not every job has a majority of workers that are hard drug users.
So it's more of a side hustle.
Let's just if it's one guy a day. And that already puts you above minimum wage.
Make this a full-time job, get eight guys in a day. $292,000 a year. And you still weren't even be working all day!
At those numbers that's not a side gig, that's just a full career with early retirement depending on lifestyle.
I'd let dudes bang me for $100 a day, and I'm not even gay. Realistically, how long we talking per session? 5 minutes if they're lucky?
Why not just let 7 dudes a day do it for 100 a pop. $700 for 35 minutes of "work" with 6 days to let my bum hole recover.
Maybe double down a few times before holidays for some extra spending money.
Well… ya know… std’s and what not…
If it’s a numbers game, how many loads can you take before being exposed to something with life-long consequences, statistically speaking?
STDs, protection against being raped, kidnapped/trafficked, or murdered, the travel time and cleanup between clients unless you're in-house, and in that case the cost of maintaining a safe and comfortable space, and finally the side effort you have to work on to maintain a body / appearance that people actually want to fuck. I'm all for sex work being legal, but it should be regulated specifically to protect workers.
How would regulation fix those things? Versus decriminalization?
The same way OSHA prevents workers from being expendable labor because of unsafe workplaces. I don’t want decriminalization. I want legalization. And I know OSHA doesn’t exactly fit the bill, but regulating sex work already exists in Nevada, and it’s much better for said workers.
Well, we could just make a law requiring that sex workers own their own means of production and anyone who owns a sex worker's means of production is a human trafficker. But then the other workers in other industries might catch on that they are also being trafficked. Please note that this is what decriminalization does, as it is still illegal to be a pimp - so legalization actually allows for greater exploitation of sex workers by capitalists and banks.
How often a worker should be tested is between her and a doctor and perhaps a public health official. It should not be regulated by lawmakers who don't understand medicine anyway. There are already laws in place about communicating STI status between adults.
I disagree that it should be purely between a sex worker and their doctor. I won’t get into the ownership of workers means of production, as I feel that’s a meta conversation that could be applied to any worker, and in any workers case, I would still want something like OSHA to exist.
I appreciate your perspective, and I’m sure you have far more insight than I do, but as a metaphor, in the sense that if I hire a contractor to build a house, and they and another private party decide the quality and situation of the construction, with no externally required guidelines to be followed except that the contractor can continue building houses, that wouldn’t make me feel safe about my specific house.
In any case, all the best and thanks for the thoughtful response
Yes, it should. Just like how we've found abortion has a million medical reasons to be performed and the conversation is best done between a woman and her doctor, STI status is the same, except maybe also add in a public health official from the CDC if there are concerns or questions. That health official can contact trace if the CDC deems it necessary. We probably only need to contact trace for HIV, though, which afaik is what is already done. Maybe syphilis too since that can go in your brain.
There are a few reasons for this. One of them is that empowered/independent sex workers are substantially less likely to have STIs, so it's a waste of resources to test them all the time. We should all be getting tested regularly and we do if we have access to Healthcare and aren't being trafficked (studies show this), but that conversation should be directed by an actual health professional who has seen that actual specific patient because it's so complicated.
The highest group for STI risk are abused people. Really. You can actually just think of STIs as a form of biological abuse and you'd be right. Sex workers who are being trafficked are the ones who are extremely high in STIs because they can't get to doctors, aren't allowed to refuse clients, and are forced to engage in sex without condoms. They are victims and separate from the field of independent workers in terms of risk profile.
Other notable groups with high STI prevalence include: children, especially adults under age 25. The disabled, particularly nonspeaking disabled. And the elderly, particularly memory affected elderly. Why? Because they are fucking victims of abuse. The most likely person to have an STI is someone overlapping these groups - a disabled teenage girl, for instance, who can't talk.
I can't even go with your metaphor about contracting houses due to how far off base it is with the reality of sex work and STIs. STI tests are not done for the client's safety, they are done for the worker's safety.
Then do it. There's nothing stopping you. Go do it. $100 is very cheap so you'll find customers.
Except for, you know, the whole pimps extorting you and generalized abuse and ill treatment of sex workers. Forced labor, human trafficking risk, etc.
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Friends without benefits
Other way around, benefits without friends.
Two adults consenting to exchange an agreed upon service for financial gain.
Money is a benefit.
Just charge 1000. Too EZ.
All the sex workers I've known (and dated) had degrees and day jobs that paid alright. Sex work was how they both paid for those degrees and paid for their nice houses and vacations.
36.5k minus income tax. Unless you don't pay the IRS like the rich people, but that's illegal (if you are not rich).
Even the $365,000 level is not enough to not pay income tax.
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What I gather from this is that he wants dumb bitches to charge $100 for sex, thinking that they're making 10x as much so they keep going it and he can keep getting laid.
Nobody should date, nor fuck, that person. Not even for $1000, and certainly not for $100.
No, he's actually fantasizing about himself as a prostitute, which is what a pimp is. He's a wannabe pimp which is a wannabe woman. He's a pickme saying that to get other men on board.
Prostitutes, as in the classic men's idea of what they are, are a male fantasy. They do not exist unless they are being trafficked by a man (because it's his fantasy).
It's not "I'd choose the bear unless the man was really really wealthy." It's "I'd choose the bear."
Women do not fuck just any man for money and they never have. That's a male fantasy. That's men getting hard because they believe they will never get rejected or denied if they pay women enough. It's a man's fantasy. It's their fantasy of becoming a woman exactly how they see womanhood and believing they could do it better if only they were born as a hot woman. But they weren't so they must own another woman as an avatar of their own womanhood.
Irl, sex workers who are independent can and do blacklist people. Sex workers can and do network to tell on bad clients in an area. Sex workers interview clients to make sure they are safe. Sex workers deny clients. Sex workers pick the bear too.
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I mean, it doesn't take a degree to know 365 x 100 = 36,500 and not 365,000.
But I guess she isn't saying that you need a degree to know that.
Ya she's just clapping back
I suppose we’re all whores in some sense.
No, only whores are whores. Whoring is a storied profession, and it doesn’t do it justice to call anyone a whore.
Personally, I think men and women, or people of any gender, are better off not whoring to sustain themselves. If they do it for a hobby, I think that’s better. I hate the idea of someone having to do something most people consider intimate or a privilege to just get some food or a nice vacation. That’s why I also find OnlyFans kinda sad, but I understand that not everyone is a practically a monk like me and they have a different pov about sex or intimacy
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