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[-] Moops@lemmy.world 54 points 2 months ago

It really is such a perfect juxtaposition of toxic vs. healthy masculinity.

[-] ChronosTriggerWarning@lemmy.world 48 points 2 months ago

A month ago, i didn't even know the name Tim Walz. Now, I'm absolutely enamored. How the hell did the Dems have someone like this on a shelf? Are they hiding more?

[-] jol@discuss.tchncs.de 8 points 2 months ago

What im confused about, as a non American, is how Tim seems to have overshadowed Harris. I heard about Tim way more than Harris. Is it sexist? Is it just that his more charismatic? I've never seen so much press about a vice president candidate before.

[-] match@pawb.social 9 points 2 months ago

it's also mere novelty, as harris has been the vice president for years now

[-] jol@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 2 months ago

I've literally never heard of Harris doing anything before being nominated. There's no comparison.

[-] match@pawb.social 3 points 2 months ago

well, certainly, if all goes well the vice president isn't a particularly interesting position to talk about outside out of the country. it'd be like if we heard about germany's vice chancellor - the only reason we'd get that news in America is if something went very wrong

[-] jol@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 2 months ago

But we go back to my question then, is Harris really so boring that most news since he was nominated are about him, her name being mentioned in passing? Could be my bias, as I don't actively follow American politics on purpose.

[-] match@pawb.social 4 points 2 months ago

As an American: delightfully yes. Harris and Walz are running on the promise of peace and being generally charming and charismatic in the way any other country might expect of a politician, in contrast to the memory of Trump spawning two or three new disasters a month

[-] jol@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 2 months ago

Here's to a boring 4 years then 🍻

[-] match@pawb.social 2 points 2 months ago

may you live in boring times!

[-] odium@programming.dev 9 points 2 months ago

Based on their DNC speeches, Waltz is a much better public speaker than Harris.

[-] iamjackflack@lemm.ee 3 points 2 months ago

It’s because he’s an Everyone’s ideal grandpa / father

[-] BallsandBayonets@lemmings.world 4 points 2 months ago

It's because he's the most progressive politician to get within spitting distance of the Presidency since Al Gore.

[-] jol@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 2 months ago

America has daddy issues?

[-] odium@programming.dev 6 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

https://casar.house.gov/

I'm a fan of my house Rep. Here's a recent interview, try to ignore the clickbait title: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=UVlKSdUNu_M

[-] SkyNTP@lemmy.ml 42 points 2 months ago

There's nothing masculine about MAGA. MAGA is consumed by people who think being crass is strength. These people know nothing about strength. They have never needed it because they have never faced adversity themselves. The ultimate failure of privilege.

All these people have left is larping some fictional version of masculinity and strength.

[-] John_McMurray@lemmy.ca 10 points 2 months ago

Jesus are they laying it on thick

[-] Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world 13 points 2 months ago

This ain't your grandpa's Democratic campaign

[-] John_McMurray@lemmy.ca 5 points 2 months ago

Yeah grandpa had a pretty solid bullshit detector.

[-] Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago

You're talking about how the tenor of the dialogue has changed, I take it? It has. It's a social media dynamic IMO, and I lay a lot of blame at the feet of corporate social media. Part of why I'm here instead of reddit.

[-] John_McMurray@lemmy.ca 6 points 2 months ago

Yeah it's performative and deeply phony.

[-] Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago

It's speaking to where people are at - take that as you will.

[-] John_McMurray@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 months ago

There's a good reason so many are disgusted with the show. It's not where most are at.

[-] sroos@lemm.ee 3 points 2 months ago

Well. 'most' is a difficult denominator. What they were saying in that 4 day, 8-hours per day, multiple voices speaking (except a Palestinian voice, and I'm with you there) does seem to resonate with a whole lot of people. Now, is it most or not, I guess we'll just have to wait until November to see. Be some excitement in St. Petes too, no?

[-] John_McMurray@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 months ago

This is just a concerted media push and it's really, really obvious. Our media overlords decided we love Harris and Walz and...well just read any political philosophy book.

[-] homura1650@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

Our media overlords also decided that we loved Biden; until things got so bad that they had to admit that we just don't.

[-] John_McMurray@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 months ago

The fact that anyone believes they live in a democratic state is scary.

[-] niktemadur@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago

Yeah, and I'm lovin' it. The political axis of conversation has shifted, at long last.

[-] John_McMurray@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

It's selfie-esque idiocracy bullshit

[-] demizerone@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

He makes me want to get a rifle and start practicing shooting, and also advocate for common sense gun reforms. Well, I'm already advocating for that, but it'll have more impact if I own a rifle.

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