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/Politics starts banning any mention of the Democrats complicity in the Genocide in Gaza (lemmy.world)
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With the elections nearing and the Biden-Harris administration still being complicit in Genocide there is but one way for crocodile tear liberals to fix the issue: Start banning anyone who comments about the Biden administration being complicit in Genocide.

/Politics mod JordanLund who also mods /WorldNews decides Biden has nothing to do with the Genocide in Gaza

JordanLund banned users in the past for questioning israel's right to exist. JordanLund now takes it one step further and is now spreading misinformation about israel not running out of weapons without American support so Biden and Harris are "not complicit in Genocide":

I link him a guardian article proving he is lying (JordanLund has deleted my comment which just quoted a Guardian article debunking his lies):

Biden must force Israel to end the war

Recent reports in the Israeli press make clear that because of a global shortage of ammunition that started with the Ukraine war, Israel would not be able to sustain its bombardment of Gaza without the US resupplying the Israeli military.

JordanLund responds by calling TheGuardian misinformation, promptly bans me and says he supports the "rightful defense of israel".

He also piles on more lies and claims the only weapons being sent by Biden are Interceptor missiles which are "misappropriated by israel for the use in Genocide"?

Reuters Exclusive: US has sent Israel thousands of 2,000-pound bombs since Oct. 7

Between the war's start last October and recent days, the United States has transferred at least 14,000 of the MK-84 2,000-pound bombs

Lemmy.World has reached /Politics and /WorldNews communities which differ little from their Reddit counterpart.

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[-] jordanlund@lemmy.world 27 points 4 weeks ago

You were banned for repeatedly saying Joe Biden and now Kamala Harris are personally responsible for the genocide being committed by Israel and Benjamin Netanyahu.

You want to make it sound like Biden and Harris are out there personally pulling the triggers dropping bombs.

NONE of that is true and I gave you extraordinarily free rein in both World News and Politics.

But when you went off calling Harris "The Vice President of a Genocide" and then doubled down again and again, that was the end for you.

You're passionate on a topic that we both agree on, but your passion has taken you off the deep end into conspiracy theory bullshit and nonsense.

You really should focus more on holding Israel accountable for Israel's actions... like snipers killing kids:

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/apr/02/gaza-palestinian-children-killed-idf-israel-war

https://truthout.org/articles/israel-has-tripled-the-number-of-children-its-killing-via-gunfire-in-west-bank/

Israel has been committing war crimes in Gaza, the West Bank, Lebanon and Syria for DECADES before Biden and Harris held political office. They are not to blame here, Israel is. Bibi is. Their crimes will continue regardless of support from the US or who is President.

Blame the actual perpetrators, not those you imagine are involved via six degrees of separation.

[-] goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org 18 points 4 weeks ago

Come on man. He flat out says it not a genocide so he can keep helping and supporting Israel.

https://www.reuters.com/world/biden-whats-happening-gaza-is-not-genocide-2024-05-20/

Our state department defers to Israel to investigate the war crimes caught on film.

One doesn't need to be the one pulling the trigger to be responsible.

[-] stoly@lemmy.world 14 points 4 weeks ago

lol I love it when the mod comes in after to set the record straight.

[-] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world 11 points 4 weeks ago

He set nothing straight. He just admitted he's censoring any mention of Democrats complicity in the Genocide in Gaza.

Which is the post title.

[-] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world 14 points 4 weeks ago

You deleted my linked articles for "misinformation" and are now retroactively making up lies to justify your defense of a Genocide. But I'm glad you're admitting that mentioning the Democrats complicity in the Genocide in Gaza is a bannable offense on Lemmy.World/Politics and /WorldNews.

Blame the actual perpetrators, not those you imagine are involved via six degrees of separation.

Yeah don't blame the Biden administration sending the F35's, 14000 2000 pound bombs, Jet fuel, interceptor missiles and running diplomatic cover in and outside of the UN going as far as pressuring other countries to deploy troops in Gaza for israel.

Let's see what employees of the Biden adminstration have to say about it

US has 'undeniable complicity' in Gaza war killings, say former US officials: A dozen former U.S. government officials who quit over U.S. support for Israel's war in the Gaza Strip on Tuesday accused President Joe Biden's administration of "undeniable complicity" in the killing of Palestinians in the enclave.

In a joint statement, opens new tab, the 12 former government officials said the administration was violating U.S. laws through its support for Israel and finding loopholes to continue shipping weapons to its ally.

[-] jordanlund@lemmy.world 11 points 4 weeks ago

All of your deleted posts are maintained in your (extensive) modlog:

https://lemmy.world/modlog?page=1&userId=3867209

[-] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world 13 points 4 weeks ago

Yes they are what's your point? Are you trying to pivot from admitting you're censoring a Genocide now?

Misinformation right?

[-] jordanlund@lemmy.world 6 points 4 weeks ago

I'm not censoring genocide, you're free to attack the actual perpetrators. Problem is, you aren't. You also have this weird purity test for people who disagree with you.

In the end, you come across like this, which is why you got banned:

[-] lengau@midwest.social 11 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)

In line with my claim elsewhere in this thread that this account is following the alt-right playbook, in the above comment we see:

  • Never Play Defense (instead of defending themselves against the claims, they jump immediately to attacks)
  • Control the Conversation (instead of addressing their own behaviour, they try to pivot back to the very topics that got them banned)

Their actions match strongly with those of a bad faith contributor who focuses on a single topic (the genocide in Palestine) on one particular side (anti-genocide) whilst advocating for actions that many (including myself) have pointed out would, in fact, lead to the opposite result. When others point this out, what they get in return isn't a nuanced discussion of these concerns, but rather personal attacks that I believe qualify as repeated violations of rule 1.1 of lemmy.world.

[-] lengau@midwest.social 9 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

While I do think that Biden is complicit in a genocide, I also think Linkerbaan is a bad-faith actor who repeatedly violates not just community rules, but the rules of lemmy.world as a whole. I've written a longer comment about it elsewhere.

[-] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 22 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)

You should absolutely be banned from all of Lemmy, because you're obviously not arguing in good faith ever.

But instead of that, mods kowtow to your whining and you're not banned from much, if anything, ever. They even reverse bans which were an appropriate response to your toxicity. You get people banned or their comments deleted when they call you out.

It's like Facebook where tone is policed but intent is ignored. A lot of people see that you're doing bad shit and no one is stopping you. You whine about every little response to your toxicity.

I'm sure you totally won't claim that I'm a Zionist or genocide supporter/enabler, because that's totally not your response to all disagreement or criticism /s

I'm also sure you won't make a weird claim about me being a "stalker" because I once said I have questioned myself in thinking you post so much and as a result, checked your profile /s

Edit: for a better view of this user's behavior pattern, see: https://lemmy.world/post/18634532

I recommend skipping the sob story and reading the comments

[-] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world 16 points 4 weeks ago

Good-faith poster #3 shows up failing to address anything in the post and smearing the threat with ad-hominems.

This user admitted to regularly stalking my profile to harass me btw.

[-] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 19 points 4 weeks ago

This user admitted to regularly stalking my profile to harass me btw.

Liar.

Yeah I'm not addressing your pity party. You are acting in bad faith and should've been banned across the board 6 months ago

[-] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world 11 points 4 weeks ago

And now you admit to coming to my post to only spam insults. Makes one wonder why you haven't been banned from .World months ago. Might signify a bigger problem with .World.

[-] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 16 points 4 weeks ago

We both know you're lying. Your response to criticism is so weak. "You love genocide" was standard for a while. Now you just intentionally misinterpret a completely benign comment and pretend it meant something you absolutely know it did not.

[-] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world 11 points 4 weeks ago

For someone who claims to not love Genocide you sure love harassing users who point out there's a Genocide going on.

Keep repeating the same old lies though.

[-] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 14 points 4 weeks ago

For someone claiming to be a freedom fighter for Palestinians, your actions sure do support Trump, who has vowed to help Israel even more. He wants to "get it over with" and that never has seemed to ever bother you. Gee, I wonder why that is...

This pathetically thin defense "it's not allowed to disagree with me because all purpose shield 'you love genocide' is on my side!" does not work. Get a new one.

You could done nothing different besides instead of criticize democrats unconditonally, say "voting democrat will reduce harm even though they are doing nothing to help now" and you would get 95% less pushback, but instead you choose to never ever address that and lie about anyone's intentions who points it out.

Finally, somehow it never crosses your mind that YOU are the cause of all this drama. Nope. It's all the other users who pushback or take mod actions against you. All of them support genocide, and your approach is blameless. Definitely is the most likely truth!

[-] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world 10 points 4 weeks ago

This incoherent tangent is entirely irrelevant to this thread. I know you're stalking me but can you at least behave outside of the news communities.

[-] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 12 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)

Oops. Looks like you forgot to respond to the Trump aspect for the 10,000th time. So forgetful!!

Babe, wake up, new Linkerbaan "defense" just dropped:

incoherent

[-] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world 3 points 4 weeks ago

Stramanning fake trump supporter accusations despite already having debunked them many times. The tried and proven strategy of just lying about everything and when debunked repeating the same lies in the next post. Really reminds you of a tactic used by a certain Apartheid state.

Remind me why you're not banned again.

[-] lengau@midwest.social 6 points 4 weeks ago

Dude. You do know that people can click on your account to fact check this, right?

Speaking of which... You never did respond to my comment where I laid out why your "vote third party" suggestion would, if implemented en masse, get Trump elected (which would be worse for Palestinians). Was it because I mentioned your probably UTC+3 time zone?

[-] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world 3 points 4 weeks ago

They can indeed. They should try doing so.

[-] lengau@midwest.social 5 points 4 weeks ago

Are you sure you actually want that? It'll pretty quickly become clear to them that someone who appears to be in a time zone pretty distant from the US is following the tactics of the alt-right playbook pretty much to the letter while using the genocide in Palestine to argue for internal US political actions that would result in a fascist being elected and making said genocide worse (not to mention likely starting up one or more genocides of their own).

[-] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 4 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)

The response from him below is so fucking typical. Accuses everyone of being a lying Zionist and doesn't address what they've said. It's like they think we're completely fucking blind to what they're doing.

You should try asking Linkerbaan if they're concerned that they're contributing to the election of trump, someone WAY worse for Palestine. They'll find some lame ass excuse to dodge the question, as always.

I especially enjoy how they will accuse you of whatever they literally just did and then in the same breath say you're projecting lol

[-] lengau@midwest.social 5 points 4 weeks ago

Funnily enough, I've done pretty much that and simply got silence in response after several days of waking up to responses from them that were sent a few minutes after 09:00 UTC+3.

They love to call people genocide enablers, etc. (which I believe to be in conflict with lemmy.world's sitewide terms of service), but you're right - they dodge the question when people point out that they're advocating policies that harm the very population they claim to want to protect.

[-] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 3 points 4 weeks ago

Yeah, Linkerbaan will never ever respond to anything like that. They have a handful of lame comebacks that all amount to "nuh uh you are".

They love to call people genocide enablers, etc. (which I believe to be in conflict with lemmy.world's sitewide terms of service)

Nonono see everyone is a Zionist, doing nothing but trying to hide the truth! Especially the mods! ...by allowing people to post "the truth" constantly and rarely disciplining anyone for breaking the rules or getting in fights with several mods during which they blatantly lie their asses off and expect to get literally zero pushback, but instead get slight pushback. So much persecution!!

I agree with you about the timezone, I've noticed that for a while. And I think it's pretty clear what they are doing and any mod with any concern about Trump, or, ironically, Palestine, should ban Linkerbaan everywhere they can, permanently, immediately.

[-] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world 3 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)

Yes they should try doing so since you're just making things up. In fact can you respond to the post above.

Talking about the alt-right playbook while mods are censoring a Genocide because of their political preference is some projection.

[-] lengau@midwest.social 5 points 4 weeks ago

In the comment above, we see attempts to:

all straight out of the alt-right playbook.

They also accuse me of making things up despite plenty of examples of their doing exactly what I'm pointing out.

Their actions match strongly with those of a bad faith contributor who focuses on a single topic (the genocide in Palestine) on one particular side (anti-genocide) whilst advocating for actions that many (including myself) have pointed out would, in fact, lead to the opposite result. When others point this out, what they get in return isn't a nuanced discussion of these concerns, but rather personal attacks that I believe qualify as repeated violations of rule 1.1 of lemmy.world.

[-] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world 3 points 4 weeks ago

Projection is an art.

[-] lengau@midwest.social 4 points 4 weeks ago

Yes, we're discussing your projection elsewhere in this thread.

[-] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 6 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)

Lol... This is priceless

The tried and proven strategy of just lying about everything and when debunked repeating the same lies in the next post.

Remind the class why you are banned in so many subs? Everyone is a Zionist but you right?

You're failing. No one is buying this bullshit, comrade

[-] gedaliyah@lemmy.world 16 points 4 weeks ago

You go out of your way to be visible enough - no one has to stalk you to see your conspicuous antics.

[-] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world 6 points 4 weeks ago

You'd think so but that user always manages to show up in less popular posts.

[-] goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org 15 points 4 weeks ago

Jfc bombs are not part of the iron dome

[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 11 points 4 weeks ago

Lemmy.world has always been home for Zionists, the admins and moderators have made that clear.

[-] Blaze@sopuli.xyz 10 points 4 weeks ago

General question: is there any alternative news communities to the ones on LW and lemmy.ml? Seems like there is some demand

[-] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world 10 points 4 weeks ago

Lemmy.Zip has one which occasionally shows up and is pretty good https://lemmy.world/c/globalnews@lemmy.zip

The centralization issue around Lemmy.World is starting to become a bigger issue now the mods are actively censoring any opinion which does not match their own.

[-] Blaze@sopuli.xyz 6 points 4 weeks ago

Ah yes, forgot about Lemmy.zip! They are a good alternative indeed, hopefully they'll catch up with all the debates on the Media checker bot

[-] Draconic_NEO@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

Too bad that my internet policy seems to be interfering with all zip sites. Doesn't connect even when I change DNS. Though weirdly it does work when I use it with a VPN or Warp (which is also kind of a VPN but not really).

[-] Blaze@feddit.org 1 points 2 weeks ago

That's sad indeed

[-] Diva@lemmy.ml 5 points 4 weeks ago

State department approved moderation policy, these people must have been extremely obedient hall monitors in high school

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