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submitted 8 months ago by girlfreddy@lemmy.ca to c/world@lemmy.world

Israeli airstrikes killed dozens of people including two families in both Gaza and Lebanon, while Hezbollah fired a volley of 55 rockets into northern Israel in response.

World leaders urged restraint and tried to frame the ceasefire negotiations as heading in a positive direction.

But in an interview with Sky News, the leader of Hamas in Lebanon told us no progress had been made so far at the talks and the two sides appear to be just as far apart as ever.

Hamas is not at the negotiations but messages and updates have been passed on to them on the sidelines.

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[-] ModernRisk@lemmy.dbzer0.com 97 points 8 months ago

I firmly believe that there won’t be peace as long as Israel exists on Palestinian land. And before people claim random stuff on what I say; sure Israel can exist but not on Palestinian land while genociding the native people. For example, US is their biggest enabler and supporter.. So perhaps they can allow Israel to exist within US.

I know, it’s wishful thinking.

[-] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 81 points 8 months ago

sure Israel can exist but not on Palestinian land

And not as an ethnostate. No matter which ethnicity is favored, establishing and maintaining an ethnostate necessitates violent oppression and persecution of other ethnicities.

[-] Phoenicianpirate@lemm.ee 13 points 8 months ago

Ethnostates have no right to exist.

[-] flicker@lemmy.world 22 points 8 months ago

When I was maybe 10 years old back in the 90s I asked my Dad why we put a bunch of people in a heavily populated area "when Montana is just sitting there empty. I mean, someone uses the land and we get like, taxes and museums and maybe an amusement park, right?"

He seemed genuinely poleaxed.

I still don't have an answer to this day!

[-] crusa187@lemmy.ml 16 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

We’ll give them Florida

[-] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 13 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

For example, US is their biggest enabler and supporter.. So perhaps they can allow Israel to exist within US.

They can have ~~Oklahoma~~ Nebraska and Kansas. They'll have many times as much lebensraum and the ones currently in charge there have proven to not be responsible enough to run a state.

As a bonus, there's hardly any Muslim-Americans living there now, so evacuating them all to other states of their choosing before Israelis arrive to potentially endanger them should be completely doable!

[-] grue@lemmy.world 11 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

You realize Oklahoma is already where we forcibly relocated a lot of the Native Americans to, right? I know you mean well, but 😬

[-] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 8 points 8 months ago

Ah fuck. I knew but I forgot lol. Kansas and Nebraska, then 😁

[-] steventhedev@lemmy.world 11 points 8 months ago

So perhaps they can allow Israel to exist within US

It sounds like you're suggesting ethnically cleansing Jews from the region. How is that any better than suggesting that all Palestinians be moved to Qatar or Iran?

[-] ModernRisk@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 8 months ago

It sounds like you're suggesting ethnically cleansing Jews from the region. How is that any better than suggesting that all Palestinians be moved to Qatar or Iran?

It sounds like you’re trying to “gotcha” and twists my message/ word thing and I’m not going to take that bait. I’ll block you and if someone else has an actual argument without trying to these bait stuff I’ll respond.

[-] steventhedev@lemmy.world 12 points 8 months ago

You got me. I was trying to bait you into saying that ethnic cleansing is obviously a bad thing and we should apply a consistent standard to avoid dehumanizing rhetoric.

[-] NoIWontPickAName@kbin.earth 2 points 8 months ago

I’ll come in because I have made the same statement and had someone come back just like you.

The difference is between forcing and offering.

It’s all about consent

[-] Madison420@lemmy.world 6 points 8 months ago

It's beyond wishful thinking Christians want a Jewish Israel as much if not more than Zionist Jews because the end of days cannot happen without a Jewish Israel.

[-] Kalysta@lemm.ee 1 points 8 months ago

What they don’t understand is that’s supposed to be a warning against upcoming catastrophie, not a guide.

[-] Phoenicianpirate@lemm.ee 6 points 8 months ago

A massive portion of Israelis have dual citizenship. If there was some kind of one-state solution that combined the two, returned much of the stolen land back to the original Palestinians and gave everyone full rights, those people would pack up and go voluntarily but also claim that they were violently forced out and that the whole thing is a pogrom.

[-] Kalysta@lemm.ee 2 points 8 months ago

The US could end this today if Biden called Netanyahu and told him no more weapons until a ceasefire happens. It worked for both Reagan and Clinton in the past.

Biden is cucked by a right wing fundamentalist government. It’s sad.

[-] PanArab@lemm.ee 33 points 8 months ago

Israelis are only good at killing civilians. They can’t defeat an armed resistance so they take it out on women and children.

The region has been cursed by the worst invaders since the Mongols.

[-] Phoenicianpirate@lemm.ee 13 points 8 months ago

In 2006 hezbollah killed less than 50 Israeli civilians meanwhile Israel bombed Beirut and killed thousands of civilians.

The claim that they are the world's most moral military was never true. They were always, from their inception, the most unhinged, brutal and barbaric military. They are on par with the Nazis that they claim to hate.

[-] SkybreakerEngineer@lemmy.world 7 points 8 months ago

No, this is exactly what they've wanted all along. Hamas was just an excuse that Bibi has been building for decades

[-] PanArab@lemm.ee 7 points 8 months ago

Yes, talks about a second Nakba went mainstream a couple of years before the attack.

https://www.972mag.com/second-nakba-mainstream-israeli-right/

So ignoring intelligence on a coming attack was intentional.

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/11/30/world/middleeast/israel-hamas-attack-intelligence.html

[-] BigMacHole@lemm.ee 32 points 8 months ago

If you don't like Bombing Children your ANTISEMITIC!

[-] MediaBiasFactChecker@lemmy.world 6 points 8 months ago

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Search topics on Ground.Newshttps://news.sky.com/story/theyve-just-killed-innocent-people-anger-in-lebanon-after-israeli-strike-as-teddy-bears-and-childrens-shoes-among-rubble-13198896
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[-] jumjummy@lemmy.world 6 points 8 months ago

Absolutely horrible, but anyone else question the placement of these teddy bears? Just looks like it was staged (not the attack, but the picture with the teddy bear)

[-] IvyisAngy@lemmy.world 13 points 8 months ago

It was probably moved to get a better picture, doesn't mean they didn't find it in the rubble though.

[-] StarshotJohn@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago

Yep, gotta take steps to stop genocide.

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