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Trump says he has agreed to offer from ABC News to debate Harris (abcnews.go.com)

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[-] TransplantedSconie@lemm.ee 99 points 3 months ago

Cool, but did anyone listen to that rambling shitpile of lies?

Sweet lord Almighty. He is scared out of his mind.

[-] ptz@dubvee.org 69 points 3 months ago

Cool, but did anyone listen to that rambling shitpile of lies?

Considering the subject, you're going to have to be more specific.

[-] TransplantedSconie@lemm.ee 35 points 3 months ago

Dude it was EVERYTHING lmao.

Crowd size

2020 election

Biden dropping out

The size of the room they were in

That there was a peaceful transfer of power in 2020

His leads in every state

It was wild that his campaign allowed this to happen.

[-] Fedizen@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago

I mean they let him pick Vance for VP. Pretty sure this trump train 2024 has a cut brake cable

[-] ccunning@lemmy.world 57 points 3 months ago

Former President Donald Trump says he has agreed to an offer from ABC News to debate Vice President Kamala Harris on Sept. 10.

— ABC News

Is ABC News not in a position to confirm or deny this claim?

Also, no mention of the terms or format?

[-] MagicShel@programming.dev 27 points 3 months ago

This is exciting, and I'm hopeful that this will accelerate her momentum. But I don't think we can count Trump out yet. If nothing else, he's usually good at playing to his base.

[-] Coelacanth@feddit.nu 41 points 3 months ago

Harris has a lot of pressure on her. People are basically expecting a total domination from her, so anything less than that could derail her momentum very fast. And Trump might be terrible at classic debating, but he is actually very adept at bulldozing others by ignoring speaking in turns, deploying a fire hose of lies and misinformation and loudly talking over others.

Let's hope for good moderation.

[-] empireOfLove2@lemmy.dbzer0.com 25 points 3 months ago

Remember that Harris is an experienced prosecutor. Her literal job has been dealing with liars, cheats, and various scummy and desperate lawyers for years. If anyone can shut down the Trump oral vomit, it's going to be her.

[-] Coelacanth@feddit.nu 10 points 3 months ago

She is, but Trump is special. I don't know that any previous experience will necessarily apply. In the courtroom she would have always been empowered by speaking from a position of authority - Trump will show her no such decorum.

[-] Rhaedas@fedia.io 19 points 3 months ago

That's on the moderation, and I can't say I've seen good moderation for the big debates in a long time. They should bring in a grade school teacher who does regular debate classes and let them do what they know how to do.

[-] Coelacanth@feddit.nu 4 points 3 months ago

I guess I left that part unsaid, but yes. With good moderation Trump wouldn't be able to run his schtick - but here we are. We have to play the hand we're dealt.

[-] MagicShel@programming.dev 3 points 3 months ago

I hear Katie Porter needs a gig and she would be a fearsome moderator.

[-] perviouslyiner@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

In the actual courtroom he was insulting the jury, and even a judge who could issue contempt charges was struggling to keep order.

Or the previous trial described by the news as "tantrums in court", talking over the witnesses and arguing with the judge.

[+] SteveFromMySpace 18 points 3 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

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[-] TimeSquirrel@kbin.melroy.org 24 points 3 months ago

I'd like to hear an "anyway" when he's done and she gets back to her point. Like completely ignore his existence for a moment.

[-] 14th_cylon@lemm.ee 19 points 3 months ago

Problem is she might not get single word out with this strategy

[-] lennybird@lemmy.world 13 points 3 months ago

She isn’t allowed to get frustrated because she’s a black woman. That’s the sad reality.

Not only that but she can't come across as condescending either because she's a black woman.

At the end of the day she must cater to low-info battleground state swing-voters. That is her target audience because she can do no right in the eyes of maga and she doesn't really have to worry about Democrats.

So what will someone like my uncle who fits that description respond positively to in such a debate?

Probably not a pissing contest, but constantly pivoting directly to saying, "look I hear you. I understand many of you are feeling the pressure in the economy. You've been told it's getting better but many of you aren't feeling it. I understand. But we have a plan to relieve some of that pressure. And while we aren't where we want to be, our country has recovered following the pandemic better than any country in the world. Slow and steady wins the race, and electing someone as volatile as Donald Trump who only helps his rich friends will not help the markets."

[-] YurkshireLad@lemmy.ca 9 points 3 months ago

Once he starts, he won't stop. So that would be a failed plan by Harris.

[-] Tom_Hanx_the_Actor@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago

Yes. I would love to hear her say, literally, "I heard everything you said but I didn't hear anything worth listening too. Anyway back on topic."

[-] Coelacanth@feddit.nu 4 points 3 months ago

I don't know, that seems like something the Dems of old would do. "They go low, we go high" kind of thing. And also would let Trump completely control the flow, which is what he wants. I suspect the only way to beat him is to match him in loudness and push back with authority.

I don't think you can beat him by being "fair", you have to beat him at his own game.

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[-] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 27 points 3 months ago

ABC offered him a happy meal from McDonald's with two toys in it.

[-] jeffw@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago

Oh shit, was it one of those collectible beanie baby ones?!

[-] CatDokki@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago

Yes, and it was in the shape of Ivanka

[-] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 1 points 3 months ago

Yet he didn't trade it for one that looks like him?

Interesting ...

[-] g0nz0li0@lemmy.world 18 points 3 months ago

Deal maker Donnie really doing deals here. Looks like he's basically caved.

Watch MAGA base desperately ignore another obvious example yet again if his tough words and weak actions not lining up.

[-] Minarble@aussie.zone 16 points 3 months ago

Drug test before and after please

[-] demizerone@lemmy.world 6 points 3 months ago

Also make sure he hasn't kiestered a weapon. Some brave lad go in and make sure.

[-] todd_bonzalez@lemm.ee 2 points 3 months ago

Imagine forcing a Black woman to take a drug test just to speak, just so you can get a clean test back from Trump like a rube...

[-] Minarble@aussie.zone 4 points 3 months ago

There is only 1 broken down old fart that needs “medical” assistance to get through a debate just having this in the rules would make him pull out and run away crying

[-] Iheartcheese@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago

You had to try really fucking hard to make this about race

[-] todd_bonzalez@lemm.ee 2 points 3 months ago

Drug testing has historically been a tool of racial oppression. It's an invasion of privacy and never leads to anything resembling justice.

[-] paf0@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago

Imagine still doing imagine 😂

[-] Lauchs@lemmy.world 12 points 3 months ago

I pray they didn't offer to remove the mute button.

[-] MyOpinion@lemm.ee 10 points 3 months ago

This will be epic. I can't wait.

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[-] Dorkyd68@lemmy.world 7 points 3 months ago

He says lots of things, wouldn't be surprised if he backs out cause he won't agree to terms

[-] Tom_Hanx_the_Actor@lemmy.world 7 points 3 months ago

I can't find anything about the debate rules, etc. Anyone know if its the same structure as the last debate?

[-] Treczoks@lemmy.world 6 points 3 months ago

Now that is going to be interesting. Time to stock up on popcorn. Sadly, your debate is going to be in our middle of the night, so I'll have to find it on YT later.

[-] xantoxis@lemmy.world 6 points 3 months ago

She should back out, just to fuck with him. Who gives a shit, I don't need to see her debate him.

[-] Pyr_Pressure@lemmy.ca 7 points 3 months ago

I literally cannot watch trump in a debate. He's so unintelligible and disrespectful, interrupting and name calling and raising his voice, etc. any debate he participates in just turns into a children's yelling match.

[-] fluxion@lemmy.world 6 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

She should school him on every question, every answer, every lie, and every insult/quip, and make America see him for the dishonest incompetent and spiteful person that he is. Just to fuck with him.

[-] Passerby6497@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago

Why would she hurt her chances with the mouth breathing electorate for a lazy and in effectual gotcha?

You and I actually follow politics and understand that he's a shit bag, but the election isn't won by you and I. It's won by betting Uncle Billy and Aunt Becky to the polls instead of checking out on voting day.

[-] Bruhh@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago

People will just say the debate was rigged. I remember people saying Hillary was "suspiciously" prepared and "knew exactly what to say" when she debated Trump. They allegedly told Hillary the questions before hand and left Trump in the dark.

[-] demizerone@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago

He's going to spew so may lies, it'll be exhausting.

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