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[-] nichtburningturtle@feddit.org 261 points 4 months ago

Mozilla chose to waste most of it.

[-] ptz@dubvee.org 198 points 4 months ago

Right? I don't need AI BS. I just want a solid browser.

[-] nichtburningturtle@feddit.org 97 points 4 months ago

What do you mean, you don't want an opt-out ad tracker?

[-] li10@feddit.uk 61 points 4 months ago

I kinda get why they (and other companies) have to try AI at the moment though.

It’s not what people claim it is, but it could end up being an essential tool for the modern world, and if they don’t invest in it early their business might end up getting left behind.

We’ve certainly seen companies fall because they’ve not tried to stay on the cutting edge before.

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[-] daniskarma@lemmy.dbzer0.com 240 points 4 months ago

Maybe that's not bad for firefox.

Maybe less money means less ridiculous side projects and just focus on delivering a good browser.

Algo the lack of google as financial support means they'll rely more on donations, which would mean that they really need to focus on offering a good browser.

I'll gladly donate to firefox if I would see they are really focusing on it.

[-] TehBamski@lemmy.world 177 points 4 months ago
[-] Phoenicianpirate@lemm.ee 56 points 4 months ago

I donate around 5 dollars to Wikipedia every month. Another 5 to Mozilla isn't an issue for me.

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[-] daniskarma@lemmy.dbzer0.com 50 points 4 months ago

I donate to lemmy and mastodon instances. As I do believe they are using my money for good things.

[-] acockworkorange@mander.xyz 21 points 4 months ago

I have donated in the past while still living in a third world country. I stopped when I realized how my donation was squandered.

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[-] SankaraStone@lemmy.world 80 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Mozilla (not Google) got rid of the side projects, increased the CEO's salary, and laid off a bunch of employees during the pandemic. It basically got rid of the innovation that could have made Firefox a faster, more secure, and pleasant experience. Rust and Rust-based Servo, as a replacement for Gecko, were two of those side projects. These are the things Mozilla needs to invest in.

Also, I think Mozilla needs to ask the user upon install what the default search engine should be from a list of search engines including Google, Duck Duck Go, Bing, and Yahoo. Maybe the order of those could be arranged based on how much they're able to finagle from the search engines.

The real monopoly is their control over Chrome. That's what they should be forced to split from the company that owns the search engine. Development and design of Chrome should not and cannot be done by the company that runs the search engine and gets its revenue from ads.

[-] WldFyre@lemm.ee 21 points 4 months ago

Google got rid of the side projects, increased the CEO's salary, and laid off a bunch of employees during the pandemic.

How did Google do any of that? Wasn't that all Mozilla Corp?

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[-] OsrsNeedsF2P@lemmy.ml 20 points 4 months ago

Maybe less money means less ridiculous side projects

Like Rust?

[-] 4am@lemm.ee 25 points 4 months ago

For userland code that basically fingerbangs every server on the web, some forced memory-safety might not be a bad idea

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[-] redditReallySucks@lemmy.dbzer0.com 150 points 4 months ago

Maybe they can stop paying their CEO 7 million per year

[-] Ephera@lemmy.ml 63 points 4 months ago

That CEO quit earlier this year.

[-] acutfjg@feddit.nl 108 points 4 months ago

Maybe they can stop paying the next CEO 7 million

[-] Ephera@lemmy.ml 27 points 4 months ago

Maybe that CEO will also quit, because other companies offer them a higher salary.

It's so easy to say they should just pay their CEO less. I mean, I get it, it's a ridiculous amount of money that no one needs. But few people, who are qualified for that job, will just do it out of the goodness of their hearts for a salary far below industry standards.

[-] tempest@lemmy.ca 53 points 4 months ago

This is predicated on the assumption that a CEOs skill is directly related to their salary.

This may or may not be the case.

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[-] volodya_ilich@lemm.ee 29 points 4 months ago

But few people, who are qualified for that job

CEOs do nothing. They rake in millions, and hire advisors to tell them what to do

[-] KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com 28 points 4 months ago

what the fuck could the CEO possibly do for a company that seems to just fucking zombie its way along, it does literally nothing and hasnt died, what could the CEO possibly be qualified for, it's not like they're gaining more market share from having a good product

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[-] exanime@lemmy.world 27 points 4 months ago

I'm still waiting for evidence these CEOs do anything special... They get paid millions whether the companies they lead succeed or flounder

[-] kameecoding@lemmy.world 25 points 4 months ago

This shit right here is why we have capitalism and classes, peolle believing a ceo does something so special no one could possibly do it.

Shit might be true for things like software development, science stuff not some overpaid C level exec.

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[-] Wiz@midwest.social 36 points 4 months ago

Maybe they can stop fiddling around with A I.

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[-] _edge@discuss.tchncs.de 133 points 4 months ago
  • Mozilla will take money from Microsoft
  • Firefox gets Office 365, Exchange, and Azure AD integration
  • Netflix partners with Microsoft for advanced HD and DRM
  • Microsoft and Mozilla partner to deliver Microsoft-enhanced Firefox for Windows
  • ActiveX 2.0
[-] quinkin@lemmy.world 49 points 4 months ago

I upvoted you but I wasn't happy about it.

[-] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 43 points 4 months ago
  • Firefox requires an account to use
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[-] db2@lemmy.world 107 points 4 months ago

Mozilla chose a stupid business model. 🤷

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[-] Emerald@lemmy.world 72 points 4 months ago

Meh. It's just Monopoly money /j

[-] datelmd5sum@lemmy.world 46 points 4 months ago

I hope Mozilla put most of that Google money into index funds or something. At least it didn't go into paying the developers.

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[-] baltakatei@sopuli.xyz 32 points 4 months ago

If tech giants such as Google cannot be broken up, then their services should be required to be compatible and all data exportable to competitors. See the EFFʼs “Competitive Compatibility” concept. Buy a movie off Google's YouTube but Google misbehaves? It must be exportable to a market competitor that you do support. Don't like how Google handles your email? You should be able to switch your email address to a competitor just like you can change phone companies without losing your phone number.

Basically, if the US Federal government cannot discipline monopolies by breaking them up directly, they should break up the moats and walled gardens the monopolies built to keep customers locked in to maintain their monopolies. See Chokepoint Capitalism by Rebecca Giblin and Cory Doctorow.

[-] Melody@lemmy.one 23 points 4 months ago

Firefox; being open source as it is; is not in danger.

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[-] FearfulSalad@ttrpg.network 23 points 4 months ago

In my utopia, Google would be forced to continue to pay out the current annual contract sum, at a decreasing percentage every year, for some number of years, to all affected companies, giving them the opportunity to divest and pivot.

The root problem doesn't get fixed if the company with enough money to be a monopolist still has the money when this is "resolved."

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[-] pyre@lemmy.world 20 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

it's not like they used the money to improve the fucking browser anyway

[-] angelmountain@feddit.nl 19 points 4 months ago

I'd pay for a browser if it wouldn't sell my data.

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[-] cmgvd3lw@discuss.tchncs.de 19 points 4 months ago
[-] aeronmelon@lemmy.world 27 points 4 months ago

Sure, how much could a web browser cost anyways? Here’s $20.

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