that was faster than I expected tbh
what this tells me is that it's finally having a financial impact
Strikes work.
Breaking strikes also works, unfortunately. Look at Air Traffic Controllers with Reagan, or the Pinkertons back in the late 19th century. If there's a way to force compliance, they will. And there is.
Difference here is, I don't rely on reddit for income and have nothing to lose. They do.
or the Pinkertons back in the late 19th century
The Pinkertons are still around, and still being engaged by companies. Just a few months ago Wizards of the Coast (publishers of Magic the Gathering and Dungeons & Dragons) were caught using them to intimidate someone who had accidentally-but-legally received unreleased Magic cards into handing over the property.
It most certainly is working.
Classic strikebusting. "Oh you won't work for an increasingly bad shake? Guess I'll put these scabs in place instead."
What's stopping the entire mod team from nuking the sub? They can remove all formatting, ban the entire userbase and remove all mod bots.
Rollback on to a backup probably
freenode, twitter, reddit shit like this is always a sign of the end
You mean a heavy handed approach and forcing your will on voluntary participants of your social media platform is bad for business?!?!
Didn't they already put a scab in r/adviceanimals?
No. The short story there was an inactive mod was top mod and came back just to make the whole sub private and got backlash from the most active mod about it. Admins ended up removing the inactive mod. There is additional back and forth between the two that got posted but it basically ends as the one actually doing the work gained full control.
Yea but cedarwolf is online 24/7. Fucking scary powermod
Yes, they installed a new head mod and the new head mod bans anyone who brings it up. The new mod is a moderator of 106 different subreddits.
The funny thing is that many people remaining on reddit have been praising the admins for threatening to remove mods, because they hate the power mods who control all the subs and want to see them removed, but that's exactly who reddit is using to replace the mods they dislike.
Couldn’t agree more with you OP. As someone who often got discouraged from posting on Reddit, I’ve been making an effort to post more here and all the responses have been great. I think it helps that we’re all new here and all on this weird journey together. That being said, I’m so happy to be here with all of you!
It’s nice when it doesn’t feel like shoring into a void, right?
This makes me think the protests are having more of an impact than they are admitting. Gotta be feeling a hit financially withs ads to make this sort of move this early. Oh well fuck em. Only reason I've visited in the past week was to nuke my 16 year old account.
reddit has a duty to keep subreddits open if they dont want their IPO to die in a fire.
reddit does not give a flying fuck about their users - it hasnt for quite some time.
stay private/blacked out for eternity, let that platform collapse.
Flash forward 8-10 months and the news post reads: “After catastrophic exodus Reddit asks to join the #fediverse to add content to platform in hopes of salvaging doomed IPO”
They don't need to ask to join.
This actually will probably happen down the line. And reddit will only keep its user base if they provide a better ui.
Lmao there's no way reddit figures out how to make a ui. They're doomed if the fediverse keeps growing
Honestly, Reddit is likely to keep on trucking with a decent sized user base no matter what. A massive number of people aren't gonna leave, if for nothing but simply not wanting to have to change. I think the most likely thing that happens is that Reddit loses a small chunk of people, their growth heavily slows due to competition and a slow trickle of people leaving (but likely offset by the network effect still favouring them for new people), and they take a revenue ding because advertisers aren't gonna like all this drama.
The Fediverse will probably have a bit more rapid growth as the blackouts still continue in some subs and more people become aware of alternatives to Reddit, but then just grows slowly, with usability being the big barrier to massive adoption.
Reddit spent years coming up with the shitty new.reddit UI. By the time they improve it again, humans would have landed on Mars
Remember guys, best thing you can do to get people to move off of reddit is to post more on Lemmy and Kbin
For communities you want but don't exist on either of them yet, make it! And crosspost to other comms so people know it exists!
They have two options: either hire someone and pay them to mod subreddits or open positions to (even more then currently) unreliable powertripping users who will destroy the platform.
I'm fine with both options. I'm not going back, btw.
Mods don't have a duty to do shit, Reddit doesn't pay them anything, doesn't even offer premium at a discount or anything.
Maybe if Reddit was more concerned with not creating a toxic hellspace, they wouldn't need to rely on volunteers to keep their billion dollar corporation running smoothly. Everything about this pisses me off so fucking bad.
Where do they get off saying mods have a DUTY to them, when they LITERALLY are volunteers and reddit gives them nothing.
And maybe if Reddit wasn't killing third party mod tools......like the moderation still isn't gonna be the same no matter how many people you appoint bc you killed the tools that made it possible.
If your platform depends on the labor of unpaid volunteers, threatening them is not only super shitty, it's also generally a really bad idea
Fuck /u/spez
If you strike us down we will become more powerful than you can imagine...
All of Reddit's benefits are going to be slowly stripped away. They are under the belief that market saturation is all they need to keep Reddit relevant, but that's not the case.
Whatever this turns out to be it will establish a precedent that all social media conglomerates will set the bar at.
Let them do it, only pushes more people to alternatives.
I wish, but I've seen a bunch of redditors in the last few days say they didn't even know 3rd party apps existed. Even complaining about the blackouts how all it's doing is hurting the users. Idk if those are bots, paid comments, or what, but I'm sure a lot of people actually think that and it's sooo frustrating.
Plenty of newer reddit users legitimately think reddit itself is just an app and have no clue there's even a desktop site. I've blown some minds when I mentioned the fact that I'd been using the best third party app RiF for over a decade and used old reddit on desktop.
It might push more power users away. It won't push away the teeming masses.
Quality will suffer, but they'll keep their traffic.
Yeah but there will still be decay. The teeming masses are there to see what the power users are doing. A dip in content quality will lead to a migration like what came a couple years after the Digg migration when the Stumbleupon folks needed a new home
surprising absolutely nobody....
I don't get why mods haven't at least made sticky threads in every sub where they simply ask users to use uBlock Origin to block all Reddit ads and to check out backup communities on Lemmy?
Really good point here, that just makes somuch sense
There is no way I'm going back to Reddit, the higher ups are greedy and scummy people. Hope the moderator's they change to end up creating a toxic cess pool and bring them down with it.
Redditors should scorch earth their content contributions. That way u/spez replacing the mods is only going to result in an open but crippled subreddit.
There are tools to help. The best recommended ones I know of:
A Rust CLI app: https://github.com/andrewbanchich/shreddit/
A JavaScript bookmarklet (that feels a bit like a full browser extension): https://github.com/j0be/PowerDeleteSuite
Used power delete suite last night. Worked like a charm. Sucked scorching my almost 8 year account, but they can eat shit.
Imagine trying to go public and creating this firestorm right before doing it. Complete incompetence.
Wow! So Reddit is actively stealing the work of creators. It's even worse than I had imagined. I am very glad that I have left the platform now!
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