cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/18302836
I'm just picturing that robot from Star Trek (the one thinking about "this sentence is false") going "huh" and then blowing up........
It's intentional and pointing out the absurdness of what the TERFs are saying.
Oooooohhhhhhh I see I get it now
Is the testosterone in the room with you right now?
Never, yes. But vagina testosterone tho
Degender most sports and separate by weight class. Perfect? No. Solves this idiotic mess of a worldwide scandal? Yes.
Now, about all the doping from Russia and China.....
This doesn't work as out of a man and woman of the same weight the man will still be stronger on average. Women have a higher body fat percentage, and less muscle in their upper body simply because they have less testosterone. You would probably have to use testosterone as a way of categorizing people in sport. It sucks but there is no other fair way I can see.
There is no "fair". You can't have it. Tall people usually win in basketball. Narrow builds do better in marathons. People older for their age bracket (as kids) are more likely to enter the NHL (growing up they're bigger so they get more playing time). So yeah, whatever you do, most of us are starting with a big disadvantage at any sport, even if we put in the same effort our whole lives.
That's life. The question is how to make rules knowing all of that.
You are quite right. Some of the great swimmers for example have unusually long arms compared to their height. Competitive sports at the level we do it now can never be fair. It arguably shouldn't get nearly as much attention. I would argue that we should be pushing more people to do casual sports, rather than just sitting and watching spectator sports.
To add to the swimmer point, I was originally going to make a similar point based on the supposed fact that Michael Phelps has a genetic mutation that causes him to build up lactic acid at half the "normal" rate, effectively doubling his endurance.
I want to see an Olympics of average people. Just get Caryl from Accounting, Josh from Sales and Bill from Maintenance, Make it a 2 parter, with an initial games after 1 month of training (enough training to ensure they can at least compete in the event) and a bigger games after 6 months of training, and you could even do a fun event at 12 months with the next batch of randos to see how much they've progressed/regressed after spending 6 months intensively training.
Honestly I mostly want more people to know the kind of results you can get from just doing regular exercise, especially when you're starting at zero. I got on my bicycle for the first time in a decade 6 months ago and struggled to make it around the block. I'm now biking 5 miles a day, and in the longer term there's some really cool trail networks not far from me connecting cities as far as 100 miles away, so I see that as a possible end goal
I literally said it wasn't a perfect solution, just that it would solve these silly gender scandals. I stand by it.
It would solve one gender scandal. The next one would be people complaining that there are no women in sports anymore.
And then we'd circle back around and have to segregate the genders in sports to give women a chance to compete.
And then when a woman stands out in her field, they'd start accusing her again of being a man.
A little late, but I think I have a reasonable solution to the genderless weight class classification.
Measuring the hit force of athletes for sports like boxing could work. Not sure how viable that is in real world applications, with human nature and all, but it seems reasonable to me. If the issue is men on average hit harder than women of similar builds, why not just classify by hit force instead?
Even with the same muscle mass, it appears men might be stronger in the upper body compared to women ("A Comparison between Male and Female Athletes in Relative Strength and Power Performances", Sandro Bartolomei, et al. ) so I'm not sure checking for any one single variable would make things fair.
that's gotta be satire
I think it's more a reductio ad absurdum.
There is zero chance it is satire. No chance at all. No possible way it could be satire. Zilch, zero, zip.
Unpossible.
Sarcasm? on my Internet??
It's more common than you'd think!
Ya think?
Wow, it's almost like trying to measure and codify man- and womanhood is inherently dangerous and phobic, even to cisgendered people who don't meet the nebulous standards set by bigots who are obsessed with other people's genitals, and we should maybe just stop doing that and let people identify themselves however they want?
Just a thought.
Babyslime is the woman who decided to have no prenatal care at all for her second pregnancy, and delivered a baby with mermaid syndrome (sirenomelia) which is linked to uncontrolled maternal gestational diabetes, and when the baby was breech and she was in labour at like 28 weeks, the obstetrician told her he had to do a C section, and she spent the rest of her time on her blog claiming she was medically raped or birth raped. She is a shitty person.
But she just reblogged Teaboot. Did Teaboot do anything awful that can be used to invalidate the point being made here?
No.
That's okay. Just make something up. That's what callout culture largely is anyways, people spreading rumors about people they don't like.
The woman I mention above encouraged many women to put themselves in danger having unsupervised pregnancies, and terrorized the medical staff.
Okay. What does that have to do with the post?
I'm not saying I don't believe you or that she hasn't caused actual real world harm, just that it has nothing to do with the content and that callout culture is toxic and has done far more harm than good.
The only person I know in real life who was like that suddenly left her three kids and just disappeared off the face of the earth for months and tried to return like nothing had happened, meanwhile the father stepped up and took full custody of all of her kids (they were already in the process of divorcing so that just accelerated the matter). Granted, that family has a lot of problems, but she always stood out as being pretty...out there.
She also once invited herself over to our home for drinks, failed to console our at the time 3 month old while showing us "a trick that works 100% of the time" (which she had to find a youtube tutorial for, could not find said tutorial, then after giving up left her phone blaring ads at max volume in the kids room where we were trying to get the child to sleep) and explained to my wife at great length exactly how it was her fault that she wasn't able to produce enough milk to feed our child.
This woman was an antivaxxer in the early 2000s which has led to the mess we're in now, encouraged women via her blog to give birth "unassisted" (no medical care), tried to pretend her one kid was autistic for attention, tried to pretend her second kid was trans, neither of them were, and I believe has led her "autistic" child into believing they are trans so she gets cool mom points. It's pathological. Your friend sounds the same.
I dunno I just like genitals
Car door hook hand
I'm laughing so hard I'm crying for real XD
transcript (manual):
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It's really simple. If you're born with a vagina and you naturally have elevated testosterone levels, you're a man. If you have a vagina and you take testosterone, you're a woman. But also if you have a vagina, you'll never be a man. But also if you have higher testosterone then you were never a woman. Woman never yes man a vagina testosterone no was an elevated. Vagina man.
For shitposting by people who can smell burnt toast.
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