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[-] TowardsTheFuture@lemmy.zip 30 points 3 months ago

Good ol sunshine state basically making it illegal to invest in solar. I fucking hope desantis gets exiled.

[-] averyminya@beehaw.org 9 points 3 months ago

So many horrible things done for evil. Anti education. Anti environment. Anti humanitarian.

[-] Cagi@lemmy.ca 28 points 3 months ago
[-] The_Picard_Maneuver@lemmy.world 31 points 3 months ago

I read your comment before clicking on the article, and I thought "how bad could they be?"

These have me in tears.... Lol

[-] silence7@slrpnk.net 12 points 3 months ago

They are ugly, but they also tell an important story, which is the decline of coal, and (in some areas) rise of wind and solar.

[-] sinkingship@mander.xyz 10 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Love the "gas" label in your second picture. There was no need at all to tilt letters, but I guess it would not keep the theme of "thrown together" if it was straight text.

Also what is with all that background white in between the graphs? Is it electricity demand that didn't get meet by any means? Asking jokingly.

[-] subtext@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago

You’d think that 100% height graphs (or whatever they’re called) didn’t exist

[-] Stache_@lemmy.ml 14 points 3 months ago

Such a shame seeing how we’ve all but abandoned nuclear energy as an option

[-] silence7@slrpnk.net 13 points 3 months ago

That's mostly about it's incredibly high cost

[-] waddle_dee@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago

Yup! Turns out utilities don't want to spend a multi billion dollar upfront cost, even though they would reap huge rewards, as nuclear, over the whole lifetime of the plant, is very cost-effective. But hey, let's continue to subsidize gas instead!

[-] silence7@slrpnk.net 12 points 3 months ago

It's not as cheap as wind or solar at current upfront costs.

[-] waddle_dee@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

I guess I should have clarified. When you do a cost analysis of per MW generation over the lifetime of the plant, it gets significantly cheaper. Cheaper than solar, or wind. The only issue is the large upfront cost of billions of dollars, like I previously stated. The cost of solar and wind is cheaper up front, but on a large generation scale, is lacking. Nuclear is the only solution right now to the climate. There is no other large scale generation that can sustain demand as clean as nuclear.

[-] silence7@slrpnk.net 2 points 3 months ago

I'm talking about the exact same thing. Wind and solar are cheaper by that metric.

Nuclear is still cost-competitive with long-duration storage, so if that doesn't fall in price (which is what has been happening with storage recently) it might make sense to use for 10% or so of overall generation.

[-] waddle_dee@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

That is inaccurate. You can look up LCOE for all of these and Nuclear is right up there with Gas. Also, you can't have 10% of your generation be nuclear with solar and wind making up the majority. You literally cannot produce that much electricity. Nuclear, being arguably the most efficient source of energy and the largest capacity, it makes sense for nuclear to be in place of our coal and gas plants with solar and wind supplements. But hey, that's just what I studied for a living.

[-] silence7@slrpnk.net 2 points 3 months ago

I did. That was true 20 years ago. It's not now

[-] smock9@lemm.ee 3 points 3 months ago
[-] Zipitydew@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 months ago

Not here in Illinois thankfully. We've got enough electric from nuclear that we export to other states.

[-] brianary@startrek.website 10 points 3 months ago

I love living in Washington. But I i fear the backlash as Inslee finishes his last term. He's been a great, green governor, but absolutely vilified for it by the right.

[-] FundMECFSResearch 1 points 3 months ago

Based vermont (but rip nuclear)

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