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[-] revelrous@sopuli.xyz 134 points 3 months ago

okay. I've only seen stills of blue guy on a plate. How does this have any resemblance to the last supper? Is it just that there's people at a long table? The more images I find the more concerned I am that christians have not seen a picture of the last supper.

[-] Beryl@lemmy.world 128 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

It's a well established historical fact that the last supper is the only time in history that people gathered around a table !

[-] aseriesoftubes@lemmy.world 60 points 3 months ago

gathered around a table

Or at least gathered on one side of a table.

[-] FunderPants@lemmy.ca 14 points 3 months ago

In Canada we call that a Degrassi.

[-] GoosLife@lemmy.world 8 points 3 months ago

Actually, the one time in history where this many people decidedly failed to gather around a table.

[-] jaybone@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago

I always have to go to these stupid work lunches where someone hands their phone to the waiter and everyone has to lean in, like two dozen people at a long ass table so some idiot can email spam it the next day, like we all really wanted to be there.

[-] jballs@sh.itjust.works 10 points 3 months ago

I was hoping to find a video of the performance, since maybe it gave off more Last Supper vibes than a still photo. But I'll be damned, there's not a video of it anywhere. Just lots of videos of people complaining about it.

[-] Camus 8 points 3 months ago

Have a look at this post: https://jlai.lu/post/9004279

Screenshots with timing to show the 2 moments people are confusing

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[-] HubertManne@moist.catsweat.com 95 points 3 months ago

it is funny how christians by and large do not follow the biblical holiday but totally do the cool pagan ones.

[-] MonkderVierte@lemmy.ml 48 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

What, that's not common knowledge?

Btw, christmas was stolen from Yule. And some stories in the old testament are from Gilgamesh and Atrahasis Epos, like Mose' abandonement in a reed basket as an example.

Literally all beings and concepts in christianity have a pagan origin. Even ancient YHWH/Yahweh/Jehovah/Tetragrammaton (God) goes probably back to El.

But i guess that's natural, concepts like an underworld are in above epics too, those sorts of stories developed over civilizations.

[-] undergroundoverground@lemmy.world 20 points 3 months ago

For sure, the ancient Israelites had a pantheon of gods, just like the Greeks. I mean, their monotheism developed out their own version paganism, of which Yahweh was but one of their gods. Specifically, the god of the storms that occurred in southern palestinian. He had a wife, multiple kids and a giant oversized novelty penis. Along with his god sized cock, he would often be represented as a bull, as a man with horns or a golden calf.

Why yes, theexact kind of golden calf the Israelites started to worship when moses when up mount sinai to get the 10 commandments. Its specifically the exact reason they did it and not that they just decided to worship some random cow, despite having seen a bag full of miracles and monstrous amounts of child murder from their actual god first hand.

[-] ytg@sopuli.xyz 12 points 3 months ago

Yup, the calf was most likely a regular part of the northern Israel's worship, but not of the southern Judah's. Since most of the Hebrew Bible (Old Testament) is written from a Judean perspective (which makes sense; it survived longer), it treats it as blasphemous, when in reality, to them, it wasn't.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 13 points 3 months ago

What, that’s not common knowledge?

To the American Christians throwing a fit about this? No, they have no idea.

[-] njm1314@lemmy.world 12 points 3 months ago

Like 4/5 of the Bible isn't common knowledge to most Christians. To say nothing of the actual history of Christianity.

[-] MonkderVierte@lemmy.ml 5 points 3 months ago

Btw, i googled ancient epics because i thought there was one more with similiar name to Atrahasis' but my god, i know most of the names from Anime.

[-] GlendatheGayWitch@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago

You would think it was common knowledge, especially given the fact that Hades is in the Bible but it's not. They want to believe that they are the one true religion and do all sorts of mental gymnastics to keep their religion pure.

These are the same people that get mad when they uear Beethoven's Ode to Joy because he doesn't use the lyrics from the Christian hymn that stole his melody.

[-] ofcourse@lemmy.ml 43 points 3 months ago

The same christians who got offended by this would also complain about muslims being prudish when they get pissy about showing their prophet.

[-] Mogofwin@lemm.ee 42 points 3 months ago

For accuracy sake, yes the depiction in the Olympics was meant to be Feast of the Gods, but that painting came after The Last Supper and is thought to be directly inspired by da Vinci. Last Supper - 1495 Feast of the Gods - 1635-1640

Linking Wikipedia. The primaries appear to be in French 😅 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Le_Festin_des_Dieux

[-] Camus 11 points 3 months ago

People are talking about two different moments, 40 minutes from each other: https://jlai.lu/post/9004279

Sorry for the French, but the screens and minutes are there.

[-] illi@lemm.ee 5 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

This makes much more sene than Last Supper. Got a source on it actually suppised to be reannacment of this painting?

Not doubting you because I have eyes but some people migh be blinded by their christian goggles.

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[-] GlendatheGayWitch@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago

Don't forget the people that are mad at this also get mad then they hear Beethoven's Ode to Joy performed or translated because the lyrics aren't the same as the Christian hymn that plagiarized his melody. They also get mad when they hear Greensleeves performed because those lyrics don't line up with the Christian hymn that uses the same melody either.

[-] hesusingthespiritbomb@lemmy.world 42 points 3 months ago

I think there are a large number of valid reasons to be confused by this image that do not have to do with Christianity.

[-] masterofn001@lemmy.ca 23 points 3 months ago

Like, how do I get a job like that?

[-] Ashiette@lemmy.world 11 points 3 months ago

You start by making a number one hit song that is absolutely funny. You continue by making performance art. Then you combine both !

[-] samus12345@lemmy.world 36 points 3 months ago

Apparently any time people are in a row on one end of a long table, it's automatically a Last Supper reference.

[-] pythonoob@programming.dev 6 points 3 months ago

It was literally a runway. Not sure how else they should have done it lol

[-] Sanctus@lemmy.world 29 points 3 months ago

Its sad. Just full blast showing global problems with history education

[-] ImWaitingForRetcons@lemm.ee 27 points 3 months ago

I don’t think it counts as stealing- syncretism is present in virtually every faith that has contact with another faith, modern and ancient.

[-] Ragnarok314159@sopuli.xyz 10 points 3 months ago

Christianity stole eating from the pagans.

[-] HubertManne@moist.catsweat.com 8 points 3 months ago

the abandoment is sorta wierd though. so xmass and easter but no celebration of the feast of booths or passover

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[-] harrys_balzac@lemmy.dbzer0.com 24 points 3 months ago

As someone raised as a Mor[m]on, their response would be: the pantheons of pagan gods are just corruptions of the Gospel taught to Adam and Eve in the Garden of Eden. Thankfully, Joe Smith (not a couch banger, just a plain old pedophiliac serial rapist like any other good Christian leader) restored (made up) the lost parts of the Gospel of Jesus Christ.

[-] Enkrod@feddit.org 9 points 3 months ago

hums dumb dumb dumb dumb dumb

[-] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

According to some ex-mormon lady on YouTube, one of her non-Mormon friends would quote/sing that at her when she would tell him about the beliefs of Mormonism, while they were in highschool. She didn't catch what he was saying until after she left the church and saw that episode.

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[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 7 points 3 months ago

We can get more gnostic. We can go deeper. Actually, Adam and Eve are the corruptions of a still more authentic Gospel that's been occluded from us.

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[-] Atelopus-zeteki@kbin.run 21 points 3 months ago

At Last, Supper! Gah, I've been so hungry.

[-] MacStache@programming.dev 17 points 3 months ago
[-] werefreeatlast@lemmy.world 7 points 3 months ago

Yes clearly. And I can clearly see his balls too. So colorful!

[-] SturgiesYrFase@lemmy.ml 6 points 3 months ago

I mean, they were almost essentially monochrome blue...considering what he's the god of, he clearly needs to clean out the pipes....

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[-] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 11 points 3 months ago

It’s really too bad Paul went in for Apolline Douchiness rather than Dionysian partying.

[-] dumbass@leminal.space 9 points 3 months ago

I have the weirdest urge to start a fight with the blue dude and I dont know why.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 7 points 3 months ago

I don't know if the French guy is up for it, but I bet you could find some crazy libertarian who takes way too much colloidal silver if you want...

For those who are unfamiliar, that's not makeup or Photoshop. That's what happens when you rely on alternative "medicine."

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[-] Magnus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 3 months ago

And there's me mishearing it as diogenes and thinking some bowls were going to get broken and some chickens were going to get grabbed.

[-] notsure@fedia.io 7 points 3 months ago

I thought it was a well planned Papa Smurf..../s

[-] firewood010@lemmy.zip 5 points 3 months ago

But I do not like this scene either.

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[-] riquisimo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 3 months ago

Does anyone have a video link? I can't find it anywhere.

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