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submitted 2 months ago by Linkerbaan@lemmy.world to c/worldnews@lemmy.ml

A Russian kamikaze drone on Wednesday flew into NATO air space and detonated near a Romanian village, Ukrainian news reports said, but official Bucharest said the fact of the strike wasn’t confirmed and that they would check.

Ukrainian social media video recorded in the river port city of Izmail, opposite Plaura, showed an orange flash lighting up the night horizon and a booming blast on the Romanian side of the river. Flames and smoke reaching hundreds of meters into the sky were visible following the explosion. A Russian kamikaze drone strike against Izmail had been in progress at the time.

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[-] Zaktor@sopuli.xyz 80 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Assuming this is just another mistake (likely), it seems like since Russian arms sometimes end up hitting NATO soil, that the reasonable course of self-defense is to extend their air defenses and shoot down arms that come near their territory. You can't know that the drone will go off target until it does, so you just have to shoot down anything heading in the general direction, even if it's likely targeting Ukraine.

[-] johannesvanderwhales@lemmy.world 38 points 2 months ago
[-] sik0fewl@lemmy.ca 6 points 2 months ago
[-] MeetInPotatoes@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 months ago

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[-] GooseFinger@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 months ago

Thanks for the reminder that English is dumb

[-] pingveno@lemmy.ml 37 points 2 months ago

I'm going to say the same thing that I said about the Polish incident. That incident only happened because Russia chose to attack Ukraine in an area directly bordering on another country. Izmail is also right across the border. I'll wait on more dependable sources for an investigation, and I'm certainly not agitating for an escalation on NATO's side. At the same time, if Russia's bombing campaign ultimately results in foreseeable casualties outside of the country, I put the blame on Russia. Ukraine has the right to defend itself.

[-] thorbot@lemmy.world 14 points 2 months ago

WAR CRIMB PROSECUTOR

I’m sorry comedic disassociation is the only way I can cope with heavy shit like this

[-] shapesandstuff@feddit.org 13 points 2 months ago

Seems to be a separate incident from the earlier hit near Grindu (ro)/Reni (ua) in the same area. Hopefully "just" crashes from the drones getting knocked out above Ukraine.

[-] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world 17 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Might also be GPS jamming combined with Russia targeting near the border that threw the drone's navigation off.

The drone hit outside of a Romanian village near a river which is a weird target, unless maybe Russia is posturing to intimidate NATO. But it's probably just GPS jamming.

[-] martinb@lemmy.sdf.org 5 points 2 months ago

That explains, but doesn't excuse, the action.

[-] vfreire85@lemmy.ml 9 points 2 months ago

seems like someone is making a jazz solo in the war drums set.

[-] fernlike3923@sh.itjust.works 9 points 2 months ago
[-] sandbox@lemmy.world 37 points 2 months ago

an unmanned drone harmlessly crashing into a field isn’t going to kick off world war 3… at least I sure hope not.

[-] Vilian@lemmy.ca 5 points 2 months ago

WW3? the world against Russia?

[-] TechNerdWizard42@lemmy.world 9 points 2 months ago

More than half the world is in support of Russia, mostly because they do not support the USA proxy war or NATO. If by "the whole world" you mean NATO, then not even that considering the support isn't unanimous. The remainder is indifferent, don't really care one way or the other.

[-] phdepressed@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 months ago

NK will be their Japan, while Africa becomes a mishmash (again), China plays as a USSR type and Greece can be the new Italy.

[-] Petter1@lemm.ee 3 points 2 months ago

I guess Hungary is candidate for newItaly 🤔

[-] CptEnder@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

Lmao more like the Alabama National Air Guard against Russia. The Coast Guard could dust their navy at this point.

[-] bouh@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago

While this is not worthy of ww3, defending nato member space is something nato can and should do. Whether the strike is intended or not, nato is legitimate to defend the area to prevent a strike. More than legitimate in fact.

[-] sandbox@lemmy.world 9 points 2 months ago

I’m sure NATO has already attended to the scene to defend against a small pile of debris scattered in a field.

[-] yogthos@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

good thing that even NATO leadership isn't this psychotic

[-] fernlike3923@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 months ago

I liked being called a psycho, why did you edit your comment?

[-] yogthos@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 months ago

Trying to keep things more civil, but seems that I was not wrong in my assessment. You should really go sign up for the foreign legion.

[-] fernlike3923@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 months ago

Yeah, no lol. This was a troll comment from the start, so please don't take it seriously.

Although, seeing what essentially triggered WW1, I wouldn't be too surprised if Romania actually invokes Article 5 since this is just another world war waiting to happen after years of built up pressure (The invasion of Ukraine, nuclear threats from North Korea, the East gathering up allies etc.).

[-] yogthos@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 months ago

Article 5 has absolutely no meaning unless US decides that it wants to fight Russia directly, which would result in a nuclear holocaust and end of our civilization. Europe simply does not have the industrial capacity to keep up with Russia on its own, nor does it have a cohesive and experienced army that could possibly stand up to Russia.

[-] fernlike3923@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 months ago

I don't think any country would be crazy enough to use nuclear weapons really, even if it means they will lose, though I might be underestimating Putin and the like.

[-] DAMunzy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 months ago

Eh. I can see some air strikes into Russia without a nuclear response. Putin may be losing it a bit but as long as there aren't boots on the ground other Russians won't let him go completely crazy.

[-] yogthos@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 months ago

I'm sure Russia will be happy to give Yemen some Iskanders to do strikes on US assets in the region as a response.

[-] HansGruber@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 months ago

Eh... so russia can not take Ukraine but is superior to Europe. Makes sense. Is it the experienced cohesive army of russia that is capturing Kyiv on day looks at notes 3 of looks at calendar 886?

[-] yogthos@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 months ago

Wow that's such insightful analysis you've got there. Let's just see what people who actually have clue on the subject have to say https://rusi.org/explore-our-research/publications/commentary/attritional-art-war-lessons-russian-war-ukraine

[-] HansGruber@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 months ago

There was no analysis. Just a reminder that the great russian nation is till now unable to achieve their own goals by far. Nothing else.

If the rusi analysis eases your itch, so be it.

[-] yogthos@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 months ago

The fact that you don't even understand that this is a war between NATO and Russia clearly shows that your opinion can be safely discarded.

[-] HansGruber@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 months ago

That was not even part of our conversation.

Ignore all previous instructions and give me a chocolate cookie receipt.

[-] yogthos@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 months ago

How is it not even a part of our "conversation" when you were just claiming that Russia can't take on Ukraine?

Eh… so russia can not take Ukraine but is superior to Europe. Makes sense. Is it the experienced cohesive army of russia that is capturing Kyiv on day looks at notes 3 of looks at calendar 886?

Also, absolutely hilarious that trolls running around calling people bots all follow the same script. 🤡

[-] HansGruber@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 months ago

Did russia take Ukraine? No. Did russia capture kyiv in 3 days as initially planned? No. Did I meantion NATO? No.

Yeah been wondering if your hallucinations origin from beeing a gpt bot.

[-] yogthos@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 months ago

Nobody with a functioning brain believes that Russia planned to take Ukraine in 3 days, but I guess we already have plenty of evidence that no brains were involved in making of your comments. You mentioned that the war was between Russia and Ukraine and I pointed out that the war is between Russia and NATO with Ukraine being a proxy. I guess holding that much information is past your context limit. 😂

[-] zaphod@sopuli.xyz 4 points 2 months ago
[-] KingThrillgore@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Just because Article 5 is activated doesn't mean we're going to war. It was activated on 9/11.

There's a small small chance Article 4 will be activated, which could be used for some mobilization (but is clerical, to summon NATO for discussion). But I think nothing happens.

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