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[-] rustyfish@lemmy.world 273 points 3 months ago
[-] Zachariah@lemmy.world 34 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Yes, please.

[-] AIhasUse@lemmy.world 16 points 3 months ago

Seriously, polls mean nothing. If you want to know what people actually think, then look at the money. Betting odds everywhere still have trump destroying her. That's what people actually think.

[-] knatschus@discuss.tchncs.de 67 points 3 months ago

*that's what people with money that bet think

[-] rustyfish@lemmy.world 60 points 3 months ago

**that’s what people with gambling addiction think

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[-] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 31 points 3 months ago

Wtf... No. Don't replace polls with a weird poll proxy. Ignore all that shit and vote.

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[-] tiramichu@lemm.ee 28 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Betting odds are influenced by other factors beyond the underlying probability, including behaviour of betters and where bets are placed.

Take horse racing. If a horse was given a 40% chance to win but lots of people start piling money on that horse rather than any others, this creates unbalanced risk for the bookmaker as bets on one outcome need to be balanced by bets on another to ensure the bookmaker makes money.

The bookmaker will respond to this by adjusting the odds of the popular horse upward to a higher probability, e.g. 60% And that can happen purely through market behaviour, even though nothing about the horse or the track or the race itself has changed!

So it could be that Trump is the genuine statistical favourite. But it could also be that Republicans are just more likely to gamble and place bets on their candidate than Democrats are.

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[-] solsangraal@lemmy.zip 132 points 3 months ago

LOL if a brand new candidate starts beating you within like 2 days, you might be a loser

[-] TallonMetroid@lemmy.world 78 points 3 months ago

The biggest loser. Nobody loses like Donald Trump.

[-] Nougat@fedia.io 35 points 3 months ago

Many people are saying it.

[-] mycodesucks@lemmy.world 25 points 3 months ago

The best people. With the best words.

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[-] xmunk@sh.itjust.works 20 points 3 months ago

It shouldn't be too surprising to see due to the sudden hype and attention around the new candidate. She does seem to be picking up young voters, however.

[-] solsangraal@lemmy.zip 29 points 3 months ago

just wait until taylor swift endorses her...

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[-] Empricorn@feddit.nl 17 points 3 months ago

And way too old. He should step down.

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[-] elgordino@fedia.io 75 points 3 months ago

On a national poll the dems need to be about 5 points ahead to be in with a shot of taking the electoral college.

This is a step in the right direction, lots of work to do though. I’m hopeful the more folks see of Harris, rather than their pre-existing largely meme originated opinions, the more they’ll like her.

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[-] cabron_offsets@lemmy.world 62 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Harris 2024. Fuck the republican traitor filth.

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[-] inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world 61 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

According to the latest data from Reuters/Ipsos, Harris is leading Trump in support, 44% to 42%, which falls within the survey’s three point margin of error, the latest suggestion the race between the vice president and former president will be close.

Means nothing outside of the fact that democrats are going to democrat mostly and fascists are going to fascist.

And with things being basically even, remember that fascists are much better about getting out the vote and consistently voting and most of our votes don't matter only a handful of states do.

[-] Wilzax@lemmy.world 36 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Practically nobody who was going to vote for Biden will now not vote. In contrast, MANY people who were going to choose not to vote because their options were Biden or Trump will now make an effort to vote, because one of their options just became a much younger and more hope-inspiring option

[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 34 points 3 months ago

Means nothing outside of the fact that democrats are going to democrat mostly and fascists are going to fascist.

Kamala is pulling younger voters and votes of color out of the "undecided" bracket and away from third-party candidates. This is a big swing from the Biden low watermark of 37% last month.

fascists are much better about getting out the vote and consistently voting

Historically, fascists tend to win elections by launching paramilitary campaigns of harassment, hyper-policing, and mass disenfranchisement during election seasons. Mass disenfranchisement has played a big roll in flipping states like Wisconsin, Ohio, and Florida red. Most famously, the Brooks Brothers Riot was critical in shutting down the recount process during the 2000 Florida election that elevated Bush to the presidency.

I would be less worried about Republicans simply turning out in droves than I am of Dem districts subjected to domestic terrorism and red state interference and intimidation of local poll workers.

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[-] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 61 points 3 months ago

It’s not a sprint.

Vote.

[-] doggle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 42 points 3 months ago

This is heartening, but we'll know better when swing state polls are out. We won't know for sure until the election is over, unfortunately.

[-] joel1974@lemmy.world 35 points 3 months ago
[-] linearchaos@lemmy.world 26 points 3 months ago

I vividly remember Clinton leading in polls too. The polls are rigged, Don't worry about them just a vote.

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[-] Clbull@lemmy.world 22 points 3 months ago

Funny thing is, if Harris gets elected, the Simpsons prophecy of the first female president succeeding Trump will (kinda) come true.

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[-] recapitated@lemmy.world 21 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

(phew) I'm glad I don't have to go vote in November then. Thanks everyone else.

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[-] Nobody@lemmy.world 19 points 3 months ago

Harris is going to win. Everyone has been wondering what she’s been doing as VP this entire time. She’s been preparing to step up, win this election, and be an effective President.

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