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Sniper took picture of Trump rally shooter, saw him use rangefinder before assassination attempt, source says (www.cbsnews.com)

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[-] JesusSon@lemmy.world 191 points 7 months ago

I hope all these sources get on the same page soon because I have some old head friends who read all this stuff and believe he was a Chinese national working for the Iranians, set up next to snipers in a building cleared by locals. They say he was then confronted after he climbed a ladder but before he bear-crawled 25 feet to aim, only to be interrupted by local cops forcing him to fire quickly but was killed by snipers who had been watching him use a range finder for hours.

Please get it together, all these 50-year-old conspiracy theorists are going to start having heart attacks lol.

[-] stoly@lemmy.world 85 points 7 months ago

Gen X isn’t the problem here. It’s boomers. It’s always been boomers who were the problem.

[-] JesusSon@lemmy.world 21 points 7 months ago

Oh now there old friend, I wasn't making a generalization as to a whole ass generation. I am sure I could commiserate with you as to the fuckery boomers have shit down our backs since they traded in free love for free hate but I try real hard not to drag ass on a bitch after 5pm if you get my meaning.

[-] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 5 points 7 months ago

I'll do it for you. They all have Reaganite Brain Worms, throw them in the trash.

[-] JesusSon@lemmy.world 11 points 7 months ago

Generalized hate, how progressive of you.

[-] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 3 points 7 months ago

It's based on science 🔭

[-] UltraGiGaGigantic@lemm.ee 19 points 7 months ago

It's the 1% vs the working class, not generation vs generation

[-] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.world 6 points 7 months ago

Then Trump will only have 1% of the vote then, I feel better.

[-] ImADifferentBird 5 points 7 months ago

Unfortunately, far too many of the 99% see themselves as temporarily embarrassed 1%.

[-] match@pawb.social 14 points 7 months ago

you have to forgive them for forgetting about Gen X, it is sort of a theme

[-] ThunderclapSasquatch@startrek.website 4 points 7 months ago

In my experience GenX is almost as bad, they have a huge fucking chip on their shoulders instead of believing they are God's chosen generation

[-] stoly@lemmy.world 4 points 7 months ago

Depends. Older Gen X is basically like young Boomers. Younger Gen X are basically like older Millenials.

[-] crystalmerchant@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago

Gen who?

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[-] Delusional@lemmy.world 5 points 7 months ago

All that lead they consumed growing up. Distorted their brains and making them clinically insane.

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[-] phoneymouse@lemmy.world 4 points 7 months ago

I’d suggest reading the article. It gives the play by play of how the events occurred. I think you’re reading headlines and then constructing your own picture of what happened.

[-] JesusSon@lemmy.world 11 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Bless your heart, I read it right before I posted. Thank you kindly for the advice though.

At some point, everything I wrote was in an article just like this one, only citing "sources in (insert official entity here)" and always starting with "sources say." Well, except for the Iranian one, that one was a separate incident but a buddy of mine mentioned it right before I read the post so I added it.

[-] Sanctus@lemmy.world 112 points 7 months ago

in group text:

sends pic of shooter

"Hey, this guy looks kinda sus, huh?"

[-] Ste41th@lemmy.ml 37 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

replys

Chief just now

“He’s just laying on the building maybe he’s just using the range finder to get a better view, idk though we’ll see what happens lol 😌”

[-] YungOnions@sh.itjust.works 9 points 7 months ago

Kudos for the layout formatting 👍

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[-] FarFarAway@startrek.website 97 points 7 months ago

At this point, I'm almost convinced they purposefully gave him the chance to take his shot.

[-] FireTower@lemmy.world 53 points 7 months ago

pulls out range finder from ~130 yards away. Proceeds to miss 7/8 shots completely on a 6ft3" 240lb man from the prone.

[-] scops@reddthat.com 79 points 7 months ago

He was a 20 year old kid who knew he was seconds away from death, who had just scared off a cop who had come up the ladder after him. I'm not sympathetic for him, but I could understand him being jittery and missing. Paper and clays don't shoot back. It's not true practice.

[-] ikidd@lemmy.world 12 points 7 months ago

Yah, jesus, I get shaky just lining up a nice sized deer still, and I've been hunting for years. And I don't have anyone breathing down my neck and 30 seconds to shoot.

The fact he just barely missed with a shitty AR-15 at over a hundred yards is a minor miracle.

[-] CTDummy@lemm.ee 25 points 7 months ago

Didn’t the first shot only miss because Trump turned his head? After the first one you’ve got to deal with recoil/nerves.

[-] OutsizedWalrus@lemmy.world 13 points 7 months ago

A 100 yard shot with iron sights is much harder than most people understand.

[-] FireTower@lemmy.world 4 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

I didn't hear anything suggesting he used irons, that'd be a very odd choice. Most modern ARs don't come with irons or an optic and you can get red dots much better than just irons for under $200.

And irons would decidedly be harder but 100 yards still is very achievable by a novice who follows fundamentals.

[-] OutsizedWalrus@lemmy.world 4 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Sorry, in this case I’m referring to no magnification. Your right that’s there’s a bunch of things that could be sights without it being irons.

The photos and media speculation seem to suggest that there wasn’t a scope.

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I still don’t think this is as easy as people make it out to be. Yes, a novice could put a tight grouping downrange - but could they do that on their first shot, on a hot metal roof, with adrenaline pumping.

I know it typically takes me a few rounds at the range to get dialed in.

[-] monsterpiece42@reddthat.com 3 points 7 months ago

I think it's easier than you think, especially from prone and especially if you have any previous experience, which I assume the shooter did.

Here's a page out of a US military training manual to get an idea of how "wide" the front sight looks on a human size target. And remember, Trump is considerably wider than these silhouettes.

[-] OutsizedWalrus@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago

I’ve shot rifles. It’s not hard to do at a range after you’ve dialed yourself in.

It’s a lot harder to pull off on the first shot under pressure on a hot roof.

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[-] grue@lemmy.world 11 points 7 months ago

Apparently, he tried to join his school's rifle club but was rejected for having terrible marksmanship.

[-] Evotech@lemmy.world 9 points 7 months ago

That's so stupid, isn't that kinda what school clubs are for

[-] scoobford@lemmy.zip 5 points 7 months ago

I'm not commenting on whether that's true or not, but it isn't how it works in the south. If you want to play high school soccer or whatever, you have to quality by doing well in middle school. Some places, middle school is competitive enough to warrant tryouts.

Extracurriculars are also rapidly getting more expensive. Too many parents want to pretend their kids are in the NFL or NBA or whatever.

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[-] baldingpudenda@lemmy.world 11 points 7 months ago

No fucking way is trump 240.

[-] FireTower@lemmy.world 6 points 7 months ago

Snopes said 244 I rounded down.

[-] scutiger@lemmy.world 5 points 7 months ago

Don't know if it's true, but word is he's been on Ozempic recently. He has lost a noticeable amount of weight, but 6'3" and 240, he definitely ain't.

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[-] BigMacHole@lemm.ee 31 points 7 months ago

If only there was ONE MORE ~~GUN~~ ~~OFFICER~~ ~~SNIPER~~ he would NOT have been able to get a shot off!

[-] NeptuneOrbit@lemmy.world 13 points 7 months ago

It takes seventy trigger happy good guys to kill... Somebody.

[-] poorlytunedAstring@lemmy.world 28 points 7 months ago

This is the fundamental problem with protecting a candidate whose entire base is really big on guns, big on having guns on them, big on using every inch of their already permissive rights, and no matter what, the candidate's rally is a highly likely place for them to flex their pieces, even if they can only wave them around in the parking lot.

You can't just do the obvious thing and put rounds in everyone you see with a rifle. White girls are going to be out in the parking lot doing influencer dances with AR-15s. The muzzle might wave in Trump's direction while she boot scoots. We don't know what kind of orders that sniper had, but probably something along the lines of "look all these fuckers are going to be strapped if they can be strapped, stay chilly on the trigger and think twice, take no shots without orders."

By the time anybody acted like a clear threat, the bullets were already flying. So what if he had a rangefinder? That doesn't count as a "pull trigger now" level threat, not with this crowd. What an absolute bastard of a thing to provide overwatch for, you know?

[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 6 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

This is the fundamental problem with protecting a candidate whose entire base is really big on guns, big on having guns on them, big on using every inch of their already permissive rights, and no matter what, the candidate’s rally is a highly likely place for them to flex their pieces, even if they can only wave them around in the parking lot.

If police snipers started opening up on random people at a Trump rally who were simply parading around their most tacti-cool looking hardware, imagine how much safer the convention could be.

You can’t just do the obvious thing and put rounds in everyone you see with a rifle.

They absolutely can and they absolutely should. Treat the RNC like its Oakland during the OJ Riots or New Orleans during a hurricane. Just start blasting anyone who looks vaguely threatening and don't stop until you feel safe again.

Anyone who argues otherwise simply isn't serious when they say "Blue Lives Matter". I mean, ffs, can you even imagine what the world would have lost if Thomas Matthew Crooks had adjusted his aim and hit one of our brave servicemen?

Every single American police officer needs to treat these thugs and their guns with absolute seriousness. Lives are on the line. And not just the lives of school children. Important ones.

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[-] the_toast_is_gone@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago

You would think, though, that it would be a "get some guys with guns onto that roof before he comes back" sign. 20 minutes is plenty of time to get at least some guys with pistols/their own AR-15s over there to secure the area. Also, simply having the right to own and carry weapons doesn't give you the right to point them at people intentionally, much less set up a sniper's nest on a divisive public figure. If a random guy in the crowd started pointing his pistol at Trump, then I'm fairly certain that would give Secret Service the right to at least tackle the guy or tase him, not to mention all the other people who would rush to control him.

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[-] Voyajer@lemmy.world 23 points 7 months ago

Kind of surprising they didn't blast him as soon as he pulled out the rangefinder.

[-] bolexforsoup 41 points 7 months ago

White

[-] bazus1@lemmy.world 20 points 7 months ago

Sounds about white.

[-] Gilles_D@feddit.org 5 points 7 months ago

Succinct

[-] Draedron@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 7 months ago

lol all comments preferring a fascist be shot than giving the chance to implement fascism get removed. Its just like reddit now.

[-] BruceTwarzen@lemm.ee 6 points 7 months ago

Why did they try to kill hitler instead of just removing him smh

[-] Ibuthyr@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 7 months ago

Pray tell, how do you plan on removing fascism? Because believe me, everyone here would love that.

[-] rhandyrhoads@lemmy.world 9 points 7 months ago

Get removed is referring to the commenters. Maybe a comma would have saved that sentence, but you'd have to be really good with commas.

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[-] TokenBoomer@lemmy.world 9 points 7 months ago

Can I assume the picture is in the article? No? Then it didn’t happen. /s

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