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The shooter was 12 when Trump was first elected. archive

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[-] Dagwood222@lemm.ee 239 points 4 months ago

He could be a dyed-in-the-wool GOP for six generations with no connections to any Left organization whatever.

He'll be branded as a woke Antifa with a Black trans GF who was brain washed with peyote by a Native Shaman at a Liberal college.

[-] I_Fart_Glitter@lemmy.world 44 points 4 months ago

Article says he was registered republican, but donated $15 to a grassroots democratic group shortly after the capitol riot, so.. there you go.

[-] chaogomu@lemmy.world 37 points 4 months ago

There's a political organizer with the same name a few counties over. In 2021 the shooter was 17, and not legally able to donate in PA.

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[-] 14th_cylon@lemm.ee 116 points 4 months ago

Discord servers are restricted ring-fenced sections of the internet. They are often used by gaming groups and communities as secure chat rooms but are also used by fringe organisations to push their ideologies and discuss wild conspiracy theories and plots.

[-] BossDj@lemm.ee 50 points 4 months ago

Now THAT'S something we can regulate - politicians

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[-] Daxtron2@startrek.website 41 points 4 months ago

used by gaming groups and communities as secure chat rooms

Fucking lol

[-] Ledivin@lemmy.world 25 points 4 months ago

Who on earth thinks discord is secure? Convenient af, though

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[-] todd_bonzalez@lemm.ee 94 points 4 months ago

Crooks appeared to have featured in a TV advert for the BlackRock finance company filmed at Bethel Park High School and broadcast in 2023.

I just found a breadcrumb of what will undoubtedly be my favorite conspiracy theory to come out of this.

[-] Fedizen@lemmy.world 21 points 4 months ago

I don't think enough people talk about what a boon the trump tax cuts for the rich were for the major asset management corps.

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[-] ResoluteCatnap@lemmy.ml 17 points 4 months ago

If you read the wiki comments there was someone questioning the relevance and thinking it should be removed before ending up a conspiracy theory lol

Is television commercial appearance notable?

"He is featured in a 2023 advertisement for BlackRock, an investment firm, that was filmed at his high school." [12] -> CNN "What we know page"

I can sort of see an argument for both sides

but I also pretty much guarantee its gonna be a talking point on A. Jones' show by end of this week if it stays in the article (maybe also if it doesn't, but yeah)

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[-] raspberriesareyummy@lemmy.world 69 points 4 months ago

Poor bastard. At 20, mental capacity is nowhere near its peak, and how bad must your life be if you are willing to throw it away for some obese self-tanning cream using orange dipshit? This is what happens when mental illnesses aren't taken serious, and treatment is not easily available.

[-] ValorieAF@lemmy.world 92 points 4 months ago

Well, let's see

Looks at everything on fire around us

Yeah I have no clue what could have caused his life to be bad enough to do something like that!

[-] raspberriesareyummy@lemmy.world 17 points 4 months ago

I think you misunderstood. I wasn't saying I don't see how people could have mental problems in this world. That was a rhetorical question, observing that the poor bastard was obviously very broken / brainwashed / ill / whatever.

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[-] Riccosuave@lemmy.world 67 points 4 months ago

You've managed to identify the highly effective, yet morally reprehensible strategy for military recruitment. Get young men when they are at peak testosterone, but have limited pre-frontal cortex development.

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[-] Hello_there@fedia.io 53 points 4 months ago

How did they identify him using DNA? That's a fucking red flag. Is there some database I'm not aware of? Or did he have prior arrests?

[-] Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world 59 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

There are genealogy databases that are public and or cooperate with authorities. Perhaps I’m a privacy nihilist, but IMHO, the cat’s kind of out of the bag for a lot of this. If you didn’t submit your DNA to a genealogy DB, you probably have family members that did so could see if they were 30% Italian or something.

[-] AdamEatsAss@lemmy.world 33 points 4 months ago

That's how they caught the golden state killer. I think it was his niece submitted a DNA sample and it popped up as related to the unknown sample they had.

[-] alvvayson@lemmy.dbzer0.com 20 points 4 months ago

I once read an expert on this and it seems they only need a very low amount of DNA samples (like 0.1% of the population) in the database to be able to narrow down any search to the sibling level.

And traditional detective work can then figure out which sibling, if there are multiple.

So yeah, the cat is out of the bag with this one.

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[-] subignition@fedia.io 38 points 4 months ago

he didn't have a criminal record according to the article, but if DNA records existed for his parents, you could still identify someone as offspring with pretty high confidence based on that IIRC

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[-] Tom_Hanx_Hail_Satan@lemmy.ca 49 points 4 months ago

There is so much that is unknown. Everything about his true motives will, likely, be speculation forever. But it's best to let the FBI be the one that does the information reveal.

This kid was 20 though. He might have had psychosis. Last presidential assassination attempt was Hinkley. This is around the age things like schizophrenia start to present themselves IIRC. This might have been a suicide by cop type situation and he wanted to be famous in the process? Who the hell knows.

What if we had a law that you had to be 21 to buy guns though? That's in line with "common sense" gun control. I've heard Obama say that phrase countless times since Sandy Hook. It could have made this a little different, maybe? It almost certainly would have prevented Uvalde. This is political violence, it's horrible, I think this will help Trump win. Any left leaning person with half a brain can see that imo. This is also gun violence though. Gun control has to part of the answer to this. Remember who the Brady Bill was named after.

[-] capital@lemmy.world 34 points 4 months ago

I understand the sentiment but I’d be a fan of having an adult age across the board.

If you can be drafted, you should be able to drink, buy guns, rent cars, vote, etc. That should all be at the same age, whatever that age is.

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[-] knight@lemmy.zip 27 points 4 months ago

The gun wasn't his. He stole it from his dad. In a country with more guns than people it's simply impossible to disarm the bad guys.

Instead maybe we should tackle things like mental illness, lack of critical thinking skills, cognitive dissonance, and the destruction of family values. Also people should have to go through training and be licensed to be allowed on the internet.

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[-] sawdustprophet@midwest.social 22 points 4 months ago

Last presidential assassination attempt was Hinkley.

That may just be the last one you were aware of, there have been a number of attempts since, several involving guns being fired at the president (or fired at a position the shooter thought he was)

[-] remotedev@lemmy.ca 22 points 4 months ago

Dudes just ignoring the shoes thrown at Bush

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[-] Leviathan@lemmy.world 41 points 4 months ago

I'm actually incredibly excited to hear how the Conspiracy peddlers spin this, we'll study this level of crazy forever.

[-] Copythis@lemmy.world 18 points 4 months ago

I was told "he's from Pennsylvania, he's registered as a republican, but he's a democrat. You see, the democrats have been voting as republican so they can vote on the republican ticket for Trumps enemies"

I just can't. I'm not looking forward to work this week.

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[-] Jiggle_Physics@lemmy.world 17 points 4 months ago

I have heard some internet talking head turn their "democracts say fascist, make democrats shoot trump" into "democrats say fascist, even make republicans shoot trump".

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[-] RampantParanoia2365@lemmy.world 40 points 4 months ago

Wait, this person shot Trump? How weird, he has the same name as the kid from yesterday who shot a teleprompter.

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[-] Blackmist@feddit.uk 38 points 4 months ago

John Wilkes Booth. Three names. Succeeded.

Lee Harvey Oswald. Three names. Succeeded.

John Hinkley Jr. Only two names. Failed.

Thomas Matthew Crooks. Three names. Failed.

Proof that we are living in a joke of a timeline. Can I go back and get on the right one please?

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[-] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 29 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

This isn't as easy as it seems. Apparently it's not uncommon to register to vote in a closed primary like PA for the opposite party you prefer in order to dilute the vote for the candidate you don't like by voting for the person running against them in the party. So he may be a "registered republican voter", but that may be as a minor act of sabotage rather than his real politics.

E: what’s up with the rebuttals? “Yeah it happens but not really”? So it happens, but it couldn’t with this guy? If I’m wrong and he’s actually a Republican, great! But downvoting the possibility he registered the opposite of his beliefs isn’t gonna make it disappear.

[-] johker216@lemmy.world 34 points 4 months ago

Apparently it's not uncommon

You know what's incredibly more common? Being an actual Republican and voting in a Republican Primary.

Everyone loves a harmless conspiracy theory, but this theory is anything but. Unless the shooter specifically admitted to this conspiracy theory, peddling this bullshit is reckless. About as stupid as child molesters in pizza place basements that don't exist.

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[-] droopy4096@lemmy.ca 21 points 4 months ago

I would agree with the theory (as I've personally witnessed people registering for opposing party to wreck havoc there internally), BUT: I rarely came across hardcore gun-loving Democrat, watching NRA-related content.

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[-] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 29 points 4 months ago

Sigh… Heard about this from my partner last night. I had forgot until just a few minutes ago (special thanks to alcohol for making life bearable). Looks like I have to stay off the internet for the rest of the year.

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[-] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 24 points 4 months ago

Well, when the tone police pipe up with their "but tha both sides [democratic] rhetoric!" - Democrats need to tell them that: yeah, the Republicans need to stop whipping up so much violence.

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[-] blindbunny@lemmy.ml 17 points 4 months ago

I can only imagine how disenfranchised this young man had to feel to be able to do this

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