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Also fuck city planners and residents who refuse to create routes for cyclists and pedestrians that are meaningfully separated from car routes.
I agree, but there are bike routes along there.
Meaningfully separated! Physically protected from 60mph hunks of flying metal.
Yeah. There are. I'm not sure why people think there aren't.
There were not any where he was riding. Which is the point of the comment you're replying to.
We do have separate bike lanes on the bypass here, too, but some kinds of bikers simply don't use them. Those wannabe-tour-de-france-bikers always drive on the road on weekends. All normal bike drivers use the bike lane, because it is actually better off than the road. They were built at the same time, but on that roads there is a lot of heavy truck traffic between the quarry and the motorway. Looks like most of them don't do this for real training, but to hang out their spandex-clad butts to anyone who would like to pass.
On the "Diagonal Highway" near 63rd where he was hit?
Edit: yeah there wasn't shit https://maps.app.goo.gl/oUXtHqR3kTFUGDFN9?g_st=ic
Just some awful thin bike lane which he was probably in (text said Toyota drifted into shoulder)
I never said "here" was "there". I was just bringing up the point that a lot of bikers won't even use an existing and good (better than the road!) bike lane.
fuck cars
Fuck car drivers.
Cagers, our term from the motorcycle community.
I used to ride road and that exact stretch was one of the final road rides I did before I made the judgement call that riding road was just too sketch. What a tragic and preventable loss.
I don't know if it's increased since covid but people seem to have shifted from anti cycle to outright openly hostile towards cyclists, at least where I live. I can't count the number of incidents I've had this year alone where I've had to swerve to avoid someone angrily forcing their way into a bicycle lane, running lights or going out of turn in a four way stop, or just intentionally grazing me because fuck bicycles apparently
People are just more openly angry in general since Covid.
Why would anyone ride on the diagonal? It's a death trap... There's so many better ways to go.
If he was crazy enough to ride a bike on an American road...
What a shame, we can share the road.
Riding a bike on the road is dangerous. Maybe it shouldn't be, but it is. Per the CDC you are more than twice as likely to be killed on any given trip wile riding a bike over a car. Motorcyclists are are over 4 times as likely to die in a crash then bicyclists
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