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[-] Lux 115 points 6 months ago
[-] Donkter@lemmy.world 11 points 6 months ago
[-] NegativeLookBehind@lemmy.world 8 points 6 months ago

Maybe it was dead/sick aliens!

[-] logos@sh.itjust.works 7 points 6 months ago
[-] IzzyScissor@lemmy.world 9 points 6 months ago

Around 2% of your DNA comes from Neanderthals. If we were scared off by them, it wouldn't have been for too long before we decided the sex was worth it.

[-] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 8 points 6 months ago

The existence of many strange and unique fetishes in humans would imply that Neanderthals were somebody's kink at one time

[-] SapphironZA@sh.itjust.works 6 points 6 months ago

Only if you are of European or middle eastern descent. If you are from South east Asian descent, you are more likely to have Denisovan DNA.

If you are from more recent African descent, you likely are straight homo sapien.

[-] NateNate60@lemmy.world 85 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

This gets posted a lot, but nobody ever seems to post what the thing was.

The answer is probably "other hominids". Humans (Homo sapiens specifically) co-existed with them for a long time and competed with them over resources.

Edit: and the genetically deformed (with whom it would be beneficial to not breed, at least from an evolutionary standpoint) and corpses or people with disease

[-] Delta_ 77 points 6 months ago

Also corpses, I see it debunked pretty much every time it’s posted

[-] Jilanico@lemmy.world 20 points 6 months ago

So you're saying zombies used to be real? 😱

[-] Delta_ 28 points 6 months ago

And the only reason they’re gone is because we stopped fucking them

[-] MajorHavoc@programming.dev 5 points 6 months ago

Yeah. "Used to be". Let's go with that. Less paperwork.

[-] NateNate60@lemmy.world 4 points 6 months ago

To elaborate more, I think that it's because if humans have an aversion to other hominids and corpses, we wouldn't try to waste resources attempting to breed with them.

[-] june@lemmy.dbzer0.com 18 points 6 months ago

We very much did bread with other hominids

[-] BearOfaTime@lemm.ee 4 points 6 months ago
[-] june@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 6 months ago

That's on a knead to know basis

[-] NateNate60@lemmy.world 4 points 6 months ago

Well, perhaps not the ones that look uncanny then.

[-] Iamsqueegee@sh.itjust.works 5 points 6 months ago

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[-] Delta_ 3 points 6 months ago

Also corpses can lead to disease

[-] 404@lemmy.zip 21 points 6 months ago

See e.g. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interbreeding_between_archaic_and_modern_humans

Corpses, illness, "bad genes" (asymmetry etc) seems like a more reasonable explaination in my ears, with interacting/breeding in mind.

[-] CodexArcanum@lemmy.world 4 points 6 months ago

Yeah if you don't say that, it's way scarier because then it could be anything! Even... the...

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[-] MonkderDritte@feddit.de 3 points 6 months ago

Nah, too much distance between pockets of different pre-humans usually. There weren't a 10 million people on the world most of the time.

[-] crazyminner@lemmy.ml 33 points 6 months ago

There were tons of humanoid species around before we killed them all. Neanderthals, etc. Wonder why they're dead? Could be this.

[-] rockerface@lemm.ee 27 points 6 months ago

We did fuck with Neanderthals too, though. There's still traces of their DNA in modern humans, I think

[-] 100_kg_90_de_belin@feddit.it 13 points 6 months ago

Homo Sapiens be like "interbreed/marry/kill"

[-] Spacehooks@reddthat.com 4 points 6 months ago

It's why aliens avoid us. They know how horny we are.

[-] trafficnab@lemmy.ca 7 points 6 months ago

As the distance between two species widens, viable (ie, not sterile) offspring become rarer and rarer (although not impossible), so there would be a biological incentive not to "waste time" banging something that looks too different from yourself

[-] Tryptaminev@lemm.ee 7 points 6 months ago

Meanwhile otters and dolphins are raping baby seals for fun.

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[-] Maven@lemmy.zip 6 points 6 months ago

The original EEE

[-] Praxis@yiffit.net 24 points 6 months ago

Literally rabies

[-] kaffiene@lemmy.world 22 points 6 months ago

I dont think that's smart, I think it's just wrong.

[-] masquenox@lemmy.world 22 points 6 months ago

...or it's just that requiring co-operative society for our survival wired us to pick up on very subtle facial and figurative signals and signs when it comes to human behavior and anything "off" about it sticks out like a sore and creepy thumb.

[-] Taleya@aussie.zone 16 points 6 months ago
[-] victorz@lemmy.world 15 points 6 months ago

I would say there's an evolutionary need to be afraid of things we don't understand. Lots more examples of that as well.

When it looks like something we think we recognize but it looks unfamiliar at the same time, we don't understand it, and we want to stay away from it.

Simple as that, in my mind. 🤷‍♂️

[-] higgsboson@dubvee.org 13 points 6 months ago

Not every trait has an adaptive significance, FFS

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[-] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 12 points 6 months ago

I mean, at some point humans and neanderthals coexisted and even interbred. I don't think it's a stretch that there could have been other similar species that we didn't get along with even earlier than that.

[-] thisbenzingring@lemmy.sdf.org 9 points 6 months ago

it could be a mammalian response, doesn't have to be just human

[-] ech@lemm.ee 8 points 6 months ago

No, it doesn't.

[-] spujb@lemmy.cafe 8 points 6 months ago
[-] JCreazy@midwest.social 6 points 6 months ago

I still don't understand what the uncanney valley is exactly. I've read the definition but not I don't experience it that way I guess? I don't know what people are talking about when they say something is uncanny valley.

[-] Sterile_Technique@lemmy.world 11 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

I've always understood it as the perception that something isn't quite right (usually with a person, but I've seen it used in non-human contexts too) without being able to immediately describe why.

A great example is Grand Moff Tarkin in Rogue One - the actor who played him on the original trilogy died in 1994, so they just deep-faked him into the scenes he was needed. When I saw Rogue One initially, I didn't know that actor was dead, and didn't connect the dots that even if he wasn't dead, he'd look like a zombie this many years after filming the OT... but in Rogue One, he just looked like Tarkin. Mostly. The scenes that featured him gave a kind of uncomfortable "what the hell is wrong with that guy" feeling, but I still didn't connect the dots and couldn't put my finger on why it looked so wrong.

Then later I learned is was a deep-fake, and now it just looks like a deep-fake; the uncanny valley sensation went away once I finally understood why he looked the way he did.

The internet is full of creepy looking 'examples' of uncanny valley, but they're all shit imo, cuz they're all just blatantly creepy shit; well beyond the uncertainty that goes along with uncanny valley.

[-] JCreazy@midwest.social 4 points 6 months ago

Ah see I knew about Tarkin going in and saw the CGI. I just recognized it at that, nothing weird.

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[-] rudyharrelson@lemmy.radio 4 points 6 months ago

I'm decently familiar with deepfakes and I totally didn't notice Tarkin being off when I saw Rogue One in theaters. I was like, "Wow, that actor has barely aged a day since the original trilogy. Good for him." I later learned about it being special effects and was like "Damn, they did a good job. Totally fooled me."

Like, I can see it when I look at it now, only after being told. But the first time, on the big screen? Didn't notice at all.

I've seen some really neat deepfakes over the years. One of my favorites replaces Jack Nicholson with Jim Carrey in "The Shining", so the creepiness kinda helps, lol

[-] Ilovethebomb@lemm.ee 3 points 6 months ago

One of the best real life examples was the movie Mars Needs Moms.

It was made with a technology called motion capture, and it's absolutely bizarre and unnerving to watch. Everything just looks wrong in a way that's very difficult to explain.

[-] lugal@sopuli.xyz 4 points 6 months ago

Maybe it's just a side effect from recognizing humans. The very fact that it's not supposed to happen is what freaks you out.

[-] dogsoahC@lemm.ee 3 points 6 months ago

Or the uncanny valley is just not a thing. There's a great video breaking it down, but I don't know where to find it rn. Basically, it's just an experimental artifact of flawed methodology.

[-] lugal@sopuli.xyz 4 points 6 months ago

[citation needed]

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