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[-] bloodfart@lemmy.ml 7 points 3 months ago

No one has said it in this thread, and there’s a lot of people talking about how they wish there was another option:

I’m voting for the Party for Socialism and Liberation and you can too!

They’re running Claudia de la Cruz on a platform of Palestinian statehood and an end to arms shipments to Israel.

There are many alternatives.

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[-] MonkderDritte@feddit.de 5 points 3 months ago

Can't you guys vote for individuals, to deflate the two factions a bit?

[-] univers3man@lemmy.world 7 points 3 months ago

Not in our first past the post system. A third-party vote in the presidential election is effectively throwing away your vote. The time to vote for who you want instead of against who you don't is in local elections and primaries.

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[-] Snowclone@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago

If we don't get a 35 year old president at some point soon I'm gonna be upset.

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[-] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago

This is a good idea for a game!

[-] sweetpotato@lemmy.ml 4 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Even though I'll never vote for either of these genocidal neoliberal freaks, they are not the same. Saying one is bad because he is old is not an acceptable justification and it is ageism. The problem with Biden (regardless of his and his party's political orientation) is the fact that he is simply unsuitable for the job, he clearly doesn't have the mental and physical capacity for it. Trump on the other side (even though he's a fascist and regardless of the insane shit he says) is fine. He has the strength and mental clarity for the job. So don't compare Trump and Biden on this front, Trump can function just fine.

[-] Tinidril@midwest.social 7 points 3 months ago

If we toss aside issues of ideology to focus just on technical ability to perform, I think you are missing a key factor. Electing a president is also electing the administration, and a president can only be as good as the people they surround themselves with. Biden knows how to assemble a solid team, while Trump doesn't. Trump is also incapable of listening to food advice, even in the rare instance where he allows it to be given to him.

Look at the issue of the newly expanded presidential immunity. The President is sheltered from prosecution for issuing an illegal order, but his staff is not required to follow that order. Which candidate will surround themselves with people who respect the law, and which candidate will surround themselves with lackeys?

[-] sweetpotato@lemmy.ml 4 points 3 months ago

I don't really think you can say for sure who has a better team and whatnot. That's an assumption and besides, Trump has proved that he knows exactly what he is doing with how consistently reactionary and neoliberal his term was. This pretty much shows that the decisions most of the time are not made by him, nor by any "team" he builds, but by the interests behind the conservative party. Likewise for Biden.

I don't want to sound like I'm defending Trump, I hate Trump and anything conservative/right wing with all my heart. I just want people to realize that when all that's left to talk about in public discourse is the mental capacity of the individual candidates and their criminal records, it is a sign of the narrowness of political differences of the parties, of absence of any important political point of confrontation. They have and historically had the same direction and interests with few differences on social issues that don't interfere with their interests. At some point people have to realize both parties are so similar and distant from any actual pressing problem in the world (genocide, climate change, billionaires) that the lesser evil doesn't hold up anymore - in every situation there is always a level of evilness that the lesser evil doesn't hold up when reached by both.

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[-] someguy3@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago

Ugh that was bad.

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