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I found this netbook(?) somewhere in old things and just wonder: can linux be installed on it?

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[-] davel@lemmy.ml 86 points 3 months ago

It’s already running Linux. You just showed us a screenshot of it running Android, which is Linux.

[-] randomname01@feddit.nl 110 points 3 months ago

Clearly not the point of OP’s question though

[-] PotatoesFall@discuss.tchncs.de 77 points 3 months ago

the ACKSHYUALLY is strong with this one

[-] someoneFromInternet@lemmy.ml 20 points 3 months ago
[-] tate@lemmy.sdf.org 17 points 3 months ago

For better or worse the more correct name GNU/Linux did not catch on and is universally shortened to Linux. Android uses the Linux kernel, but is not GNU/Linux, and therefore is not Linux.

[-] rwhitisissle@lemmy.ml 32 points 3 months ago

Alpine Linux users are in shambles.

[-] davel@lemmy.ml 28 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

This is some ass-backwards logic. You’re trying to redefine Linux and then declaring that Android does not meet your novel definition. If Android, Alpine, and Chimera are not Linux, then what are they?

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[-] beyond@linkage.ds8.zone 8 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

GNU/Linux != Linux

Linux is a kernel

GNU/Linux is the GNU userland (tools and libraries) combined with the Linux kernel to form a complete operating system

Android is Linux but not GNU. So are Alpine, postmarketOS, and others I can't think of

Linux is to an operating system as bread is to a sandwich... an essential component, but a slice of bread by itself does not make a sandwich make

[-] tate@lemmy.sdf.org 6 points 3 months ago

Most of what you said is exactly my point. It's true the word Linux, used properly, refers to a kernel and not an operating system. But that's not the way the word is used in practice, and it is not what OP meant when they used it. They meant " an OS with the Linux kernel and GNU userspace utilities." When the word Linux is used that way, Android is not Linux.

[-] Para_lyzed@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago

Do you not consider Alpine Linux to fall into the general category of "Linux", then? It lacks GNU user space utilities, though there is never a world where I would not consider it a "Linux" operating system. You seem to be overgeneralizing here and making assumptions about OP's intentions that aren't based in fact. I don't see the point in drawing meaningless lines, here. What you're referring to (as described by the GNU project) is GNU/Linux, not "Linux" by itself. The two are often but not always used interchangeably, and treating them as exactly the same leads to major outliers, like Alpine. I've heard plenty of people use the term "Linux" in practice to describe software running on embedded devices that don't contain GNU utilities, so this isn't exclusive to Alpine. In fact, the only real exception that I see consistently to operating systems that run the Linux kernel is Android, so it makes much more sense to formulate a description of the generic term "Linux" as simply having an exception for Android, though I'd argue that the only reasons that Android isn't viewed as "Linux" is because it is a mobile operating system, it is developed with the sole intention of including non-free, proprietary software (AOSP by itself isn't meant to be the full operating system on any device, but rather a framework), and the fact that the structure of the filesystem and the way apps are run differ completely from the ways of traditional "Linux". It seems to be an exception purely by the fact that it operates in fundamentally different ways than other "Linux" operating systems.

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[-] Phrodo_00@lemmy.world 7 points 3 months ago

Are reading what you write? It's linux so it isn't?

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[-] Templa@beehaw.org 12 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Does this means can install any repo on my phone?

[-] davel@lemmy.ml 8 points 3 months ago

If you can root your phone, probably some of them, perhaps many of them, but that probably wouldn’t make for a very good phone.

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[-] shasta@lemm.ee 65 points 3 months ago

No, you're not allowed. Now go to your room and think about what you've done.

[-] ratzki@discuss.tchncs.de 14 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

*what you have NOT done.

Fixed that for you 😉

[-] delirious_owl@discuss.online 49 points 3 months ago

Surely its easier to install Linux than android.

I want to know how they put android on it

[-] meekah@lemmy.world 11 points 3 months ago

I mean, the internals might just be the ones of a tablet or something. With android I'd be guessing its an ARM chip

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[-] quantumcog@sh.itjust.works 46 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Probably Yes

[-] archy@lemmy.world 34 points 3 months ago

Looks like you already did

[-] Deconceptualist@lemm.ee 28 points 3 months ago

Most likely yes, as many others have said. Of course you'll likely have to pick a very lightweight DE.

As a fallback there is always NetBSD.

[-] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 11 points 3 months ago

NetBSD will not work at all with Broadcom Wireless

[-] Deconceptualist@lemm.ee 14 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

I mean if you're down to NetBSD as your pick you've probably already made some big concessions so plugging into Ethernet isn't a huge leap at that point.

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[-] StoneGender 24 points 3 months ago
[-] lemann@lemmy.dbzer0.com 19 points 3 months ago

This looks like one of those low cost netbooks from the time where "EPad" and "MID" tablets were a thing. There is an edition of Windows CE floating around for these - but WiFi will not work, neither the modem if this has one built in.

No idea about Linux - there is a kernel so you're technically half way there, but considering most of these had a slow single core ARM CPU and 256MB of RAM on a good day, practical use is limited IMO

[-] boredsquirrel@slrpnk.net 8 points 3 months ago

It probably has USB, wifi adapters are cheap.

[-] DieserTypMatthias@lemmy.ml 18 points 3 months ago

Well of course you can.

[-] SuitedUpDev@feddit.nl 17 points 3 months ago

Yes you can, it won't be great though.

I used to maintain a Linux distribution called "OpenWM8650" (back in 2011 / 2012) which was specially aimed at the WM8650 and WM8505. It would run off the SD card. Which wasn't great, but the flash onboard support was horrible at best.

Maybe you can find some old information on it, on XDA because the website for the initial distribution is long gone.

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[-] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 16 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

This device should be able to run Linux fine of the specs you provided are correct. You can either use CLI or a Light weight Window manager like IceWM. Web browsing and video playback are out of the question but it most certainly can run vim.

I would just install Debian. It is likely a 32bit machine.

[-] notthebees@reddthat.com 15 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)
[-] Veraxis@lemmy.world 15 points 3 months ago

I think you would need to provide more detail to know what you have. Does it have a model number on it anywhere?

[-] someoneFromInternet@lemmy.ml 17 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

that's it: CPU: WM8650 800Hz Memory:DDR 256MB

It's information on back cover

[-] nyan@sh.itjust.works 20 points 3 months ago

"WM8650" seems to indicate a VIA WonderMedia WM8650 armv5te chipset, used by a lot of anemic Android laptops circa 2011 (sold under various brandnames, but apparently all made in the same factory). People have installed Linux on them in the past (there seems to have been a fad for Arch on these for a while, given the search results), but you might have trouble getting a device tree that will work with a modern kernel.

Honestly, though, it has less processor than a Raspberry Pi 3. Unless you've already thought of a specific use for this, I'd dump it back in the junk drawer.

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[-] floquant@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 3 months ago

Probably not worth trying to actually use today. I'd leave it as it is, imo it's better as a small piece of history - Android on PC is pretty niche

[-] someoneFromInternet@lemmy.ml 5 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

I just can't find

[-] HATEFISH@midwest.social 13 points 3 months ago

Just want to say good luck. Someone brought me one of these and asked to make it ready to be their university laptop in 2013. I worked real hard not to laugh because money was obviously tight but I just told them to return the pos to Amazon.

[-] bloodfart@lemmy.ml 8 points 3 months ago

The first image for wm8650 that comes up is a Debian boot logo.

[-] StoneGender 6 points 3 months ago

Take a picture of the bottom pls

[-] delirious_owl@discuss.online 5 points 3 months ago

I'm not sure its appropriate here

[-] someoneFromInternet@lemmy.ml 5 points 3 months ago

that's it: CPU: WM8650 800Hz Memory:DDR 256MB and information about screen. Literally

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[-] 667@lemmy.radio 5 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

You can install Linux on anything you can get it on.

E: Please check out https://www.linuxfromscratch.org/

[-] someoneFromInternet@lemmy.ml 5 points 3 months ago

maybe you have some instructions?

[-] 667@lemmy.radio 6 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Was a bit tongue-in-cheek mate, I’m sorry and it wasn’t fair because you are here looking for guidance.

Please check out Linux From Scratch: https://www.linuxfromscratch.org/

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[-] MonkderDritte@feddit.de 5 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

If not, there's probably one or the other security hole to root it and use chroot.

[-] turbowafflz@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago

Looks very similar to the Windows CE device action retro has in this video so what he used could be helpful https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=anz17CNMixU

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