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[-] dhork@lemmy.world 144 points 4 months ago

.... Is it possible the office is in Southeast London but the actual work is North and West?

[-] OsaErisXero@kbin.run 104 points 4 months ago

This is how field service jobs are written in my experience, yes.

[-] Dkarma@lemmy.world 18 points 4 months ago

How fucking spoiled are Europeans when they won't take a job on the other side of town??????

[-] scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech 93 points 4 months ago

I love that you reversed it, when it should be "how terrible do Americans have it where we have to commute so far just to get to work"

[-] jaybone@lemmy.world 21 points 4 months ago

And it says the hours are 9 to 5. Who the fuck cares then? If it takes you four hours to get from south east London to north west London, then there’s half of your day. Grab some crisps or some spotted dick and put some footie on your vodafone in the tube.

[-] funkless_eck@sh.itjust.works 6 points 4 months ago

This could be a 90 commute in each direction depending on where it is.

[-] Spaceinv8er@sh.itjust.works 2 points 4 months ago

It's fairly insane that from Romford to Sutton which is only 30 miles, it's roughly an hour and 45 minutes.

I just went to the Wiltern in downtown LA last night and it's about the same distance as Romford to Sutton from where I live, and without traffic, it takes 40 minutes, with traffic an hour.

[-] funkless_eck@sh.itjust.works 3 points 4 months ago

I used to do Clapham to Cricklewood - which at rush hour could be up to 2 hours if there were delays or it was too busy to fit on a tube.

[-] Malfeasant@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago

I live in a suburb to the east of Phoenix. I wouldn't even consider a job on the west side. Nothing to do with Europe, just the reality of a large city.

[-] iopq@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago

Where I live, you can drive for three hours and still be within the city limits

[-] Mannimarco@lemmy.world 83 points 4 months ago

Unrelated but this is literally the first time in my life I've seen an actual 9-5 job, I only ever see 8-5 or 9-6

[-] grue@lemmy.world 67 points 4 months ago

That extra hour of wage theft is why it's the most prevalent kind of theft.

[-] empireOfLove2@lemmy.dbzer0.com 52 points 4 months ago

✨️unpaid lunch hourrrrrrr✨️

[-] tourist@lemmy.world 21 points 4 months ago

remember to be back by 12:30 for the standup at 12:45

you should have finished eating by then

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[-] Jimbo@yiffit.net 10 points 4 months ago

The only good thing about the security industry in my country is all breaks are paid. However if there is a security emergency on your break you need to drop everything and sort it, as these things tend to be time sensitive.

That said do NOT get into the security industry, workers are treated terribly by the public and higher ups, if you can imagine.

[-] Stoposto@lemmy.world 16 points 4 months ago

That seems like a US thing? All Nordic Europe countries 8-16 is the US version of 9-5. 8-17 (9-6) would be a 4 days a week job hitting the normal 37 hour work week.

[-] Regna@lemmy.world 12 points 4 months ago

Not all Nordic countries. The main standard work weeks in Sweden are 40 hours for office work employees. Our collective union agreements for most office work places I know of agree on at least half hour unpaid lunch and at least two 15 minute paid breaks each work day. Every place I worked for had flexible hours, which meant I could choose between turning up between 7 or 9, as long as I didn’t miss meetings and worked 40 hours a week at an average, based on monthly calculations. And any overtime was compensated with double time off and/or monetary overtime compensation.

This will of course be different for shift work or nurse/doctor positions. But I’ve never worked an 8-16 job.

[-] Stoposto@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

8-16 each day is 40 hours not counting the breaks. (Counting them would make it 37)

So do Swedish people work from 8-16, 9-5 or do office workers work from 8-17, 9-6 everyday (inkluding Friday)?

I have family in Malmö and that is not the case for them. Can't speak in the standard for Sweden but I worked closely with Norwegians and they had the same 8-16 (8-15 Friday) in Oslo as we did in in Denmark(KBH).

[-] Regna@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago

Well, the standard recommended work hours would be 08-17 (8 AM to 5 PM), with one hour unpaid lunch, so 8 hours paid. And you can take those paid breaks, or even combine them with lunch. Most places (that don’t have shifts, scheduled appointments or aren’t school or health care related) allow for this kind of flexibility.

My current work place has 39 hours a week during the half year during or close to winter and around 37 hours during the summer or the months adjoining summer. Then again, most people tend to flex actual hours worked, e.g. working 4 hours on Monday and Friday, and working more hours during the same week or compensating for it later. But you HAVE to take at least 30 minutes of lunch, and the workplace tries to enforce the paid breaks as well. So some, like me, take an hour off for lunch, but use our half hour unpaid lunch and add on breaks 2x15 with pay (which is billed to our clients, as we’re legally entitled to). So I can show up anywhere between 06:30 and 11:00 (as long as I don’t have deadlines or meetings) and decide how I want to dispose the hours of my time on schedule.

And I get 7 weeks off, paid, every year. And pad it out with overtime so that I work maybe a week of overtime and get two weeks extra off for holidays.

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[-] echodot@feddit.uk 10 points 4 months ago

It's because they reckon on 8-hour days but then under UK law they have to give you two 15-minute breaks and one 30-minute lunch. So they decide that they don't like that so you've got to work the hours back so they add an extra hour on and then claim that your break times don't count.

But the problem with that is the only reason that I'm having a break in the town rather than at my house is because of all the other hours I'm doing around it. So really they should be paying for it. Capitalism is going to capitalism.

[-] dingus@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago

Before my current job, any job I've had had an 8.5 hour shift with a half an hour unpaid lunch. But I managed to score a gig where I have an 8.0 hour shift with a half an hour paid lunch. It seems uncommon in the US, but I guess it must be common elsewhere.

[-] w3dd1e@lemm.ee 79 points 4 months ago

My favorite is when the title says remote or local to you, but then the body of the posting says you would be required to relocate and that it was intentionally posted in multiple cities to reach a wider audience.

If I wanted to work in Minnesota, I would have searched for jobs in Minnesota.

[-] _number8_@lemmy.world 63 points 4 months ago

why does everyone have to have "excellent" skills? just logically not everyone can have excellent skills, or there wouldn't be excellent skills. i very much doubt everyone currently working there also has equally "excellent" skills. you can't just say you have to be perfect. i fucking hate this shit

[-] WarlordSdocy@lemmy.world 20 points 4 months ago

What I hate more are the entry level jobs that will be like that. Like bro it's an entry level job and you're expecting people to have a super deep understanding makes no sense. Like I get it's just marketing and a way to lower the number of applicants to get just the really good ones but it makes it so much harder to figure out what level of skill a job is looking for if they all say they want experts with certain skills or tools.

[-] vithigar@lemmy.ca 20 points 4 months ago

In fairness to requiring "excellence", I'd imagine most professionals have excellent skills in their field compared to the average person.

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[-] WolfLink@sh.itjust.works 18 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

It’s just marketing.

It’s like how a 7 or 8 out of 10 movie should mean it’s really great, but actually means it was just “ok”.

We like the idea that we are getting something above average, which ends up with a skewed idea of what average is.

[-] Dkarma@lemmy.world 7 points 4 months ago

It's not even that. If they ask for average they get trash. If they ask for excellent then trash doesn't apply and they get average

[-] Zorque@lemmy.world 11 points 4 months ago

Or the trash with excellent ability to lie their ass off applies.

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[-] Manalith@midwest.social 41 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

I hate the ones that are listed as remote, but when you read deeper it says remote - in x location, if there was a way to filter those out of searches, it would be convenient.

[-] echodot@feddit.uk 8 points 4 months ago

Is that the ones where they claim it's remote but really they need you in the office 3 days a week?

[-] mesamunefire@lemmy.world 30 points 4 months ago

My favorite is the remote - location jobs. Almost none of them are actually remote, they just want more people to apply so their quota will be met.

[-] HootinNHollerin@lemmy.world 10 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

This is a huge problem. During my several months of job searching that drove me nuts. Completely different stated in the US. Someone’s opposite side of the country. I would report them to LinkedIn and LinkedIn said there’s nothing wrong. Fucked up LinkedIn

[-] echodot@feddit.uk 29 points 4 months ago

I once made the mistake of saying I was willing to relocate, like to a different city or something, and they took that to mean anywhere on the planet. And all the jobs they were asking me about when weird places like Saudi Arabia, and it wasn't even well paid.

[-] JackbyDev@programming.dev 7 points 4 months ago

That sounds like a good way to get trafficked lol

[-] ConHoliousDonFrankle@lemmy.world 23 points 4 months ago
[-] Reverendender@sh.itjust.works 20 points 4 months ago

I have to use my hands to finger?! F this nonsense, I'm out.

[-] KingJalopy@lemm.ee 6 points 4 months ago

Toe fuck or get fucked.

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[-] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 15 points 4 months ago

Hey at least it is in the same city, I used to get ones for 2000 Km away.

[-] echodot@feddit.uk 4 points 4 months ago
[-] EffortlessEffluvium@lemm.ee 2 points 4 months ago

I await the ones for the Moon or Mars…

[-] smeenz@lemmy.nz 3 points 4 months ago

Applicant must be willing to relocate to the Barnard's star system but will also be required in the London office 3 days a week

[-] EffortlessEffluvium@lemm.ee 4 points 4 months ago

Thank Zaphod the Hyperspace Bypass is on schedule!

[-] Longpork3@lemmy.nz 2 points 4 months ago

I often stumble across jobs in Antarctica listed in my region. It's right there in the headline, so its easy to skip over them, but i have to wonder, how else would you advertise for jobs in remote locations where most people wouldn't even think to look?

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[-] ThunderWhiskers@lemmy.world 13 points 4 months ago

WTF are demonstrable analytical skills?

[-] partial_accumen@lemmy.world 25 points 4 months ago

The ability to call out BS or contradictory requirements in a job posting.

[-] KingJalopy@lemm.ee 6 points 4 months ago

You're hired!

[-] Shardikprime@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago

You have to go weast and Nouth

[-] SrTobi@feddit.de 2 points 4 months ago

Is 48800 enough to live jn London?

[-] NickwithaC@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago

Yes. Even £20,000 is liveable in London although if you really want to maximise your London experience you'll want more than that.

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