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[-] Protoknuckles@lemmy.world 249 points 4 months ago

Automatic draft, but notvoter registration...

[-] rob_t_firefly@lemmy.world 73 points 4 months ago

Just because the politicians want to grab you out of your life and use you as cannon fodder doesn't mean they want to actually be as accountable to you as they're supposed to.

[-] Croquette@sh.itjust.works 29 points 4 months ago

Politicians voting for mandatory draft should be on the frontline. Pieces of shit.

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[-] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 45 points 4 months ago

Automatic registration for Selective Services, not automatic draft. That’s very different. This is actually helpful in keeping people out of prison or getting fined for not registering.

But yes, this absolutely proves that they could automatically register people to vote with no designated party affiliation.

[-] ChihuahuaOfDoom@lemmy.world 143 points 4 months ago

I might catch hate for this but I never understood why it wasn't automatic the entire time since it's illegal to not register.

[-] blackluster117@possumpat.io 47 points 4 months ago

Easy way to funnel the lazy into prison labor?

[-] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 11 points 4 months ago

Not any more at least. Prior to this bill, failing to register for Selective Services was a felony punishable by imprisonment for up to five years and/or a fine of not more than $250,000.

Now you’re automatically enrolled. I think it’s actually better this way.

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[-] homura1650@lemm.ee 30 points 4 months ago

Because there has not been a draft since the 70s, where automatic registration was not feasible.

[-] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 12 points 4 months ago

Yes, but failure to register was a felony.

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[-] phoneymouse@lemmy.world 14 points 4 months ago

Yeah — seems like they just want to test people

[-] TAG@lemmy.world 12 points 4 months ago

It was not automatic so rich people can avoid it. I have never heard of someone facing criminal charges for failing to register. I have heard that failing to register can impact eligibility for college financial aid and scholarships.

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[-] shalafi@lemmy.world 10 points 4 months ago

It should be automatic, and it is now. Why did I have to worry about it 40-years ago? Now? Now worries, done deal. Nothing has changed.

Of course lemmy thinks that serving means you're on the front lines as a grunt with an M4.

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[-] mctoasterson@reddthat.com 104 points 4 months ago

You're already legally required to manually register with the selective service if you are male and you turn 18.

Why not just introduce legislation to end that requirement altogether.

[-] TaeKwonDoh@lemmy.world 17 points 4 months ago

Don't give them ideas.

[-] ameancow@lemmy.world 10 points 4 months ago

As an aside, my parents kept me out of the "the system" for most of my youth so I missed my deadline, I never knew it existed.

This made me ineligible for some benefits like federal loans and other programs. I wrote to Selective Service with a notarized letter that my failure to register was truly an oversight and they sent me a waiver and cleared my status.

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[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 73 points 4 months ago

This will definitely get the kids voting Republican.

GOP 2024: We want you to die.

[-] Jubei_K_08@lemmy.world 65 points 4 months ago

Remember kids, you can be a draft dodger and be president 😎👉👉

[-] snow_bunny@lemmy.world 13 points 4 months ago

Which would be fine if said draft dodger wasn't a chickenhawk.

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[-] iopq@lemmy.world 61 points 4 months ago

Disagree, just make the draft also affect women so it's not sexist

[-] DadVolante@sh.itjust.works 12 points 4 months ago

Good news for you, I guess.... this includes making women sign up.

[-] iopq@lemmy.world 32 points 4 months ago
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[-] OhStopYellingAtMe@lemmy.world 57 points 4 months ago

So people can be automatically registered for the draft, but not automatically registered to vote? Seems like bullshit.

[-] assassin_aragorn@lemmy.world 56 points 4 months ago

For one, I think this was already required. I remember having to enroll in selective service.

For two though, whoever calls another draft is dead in the water. It's commonly accepted that starting an actual draft is political suicide.

That said, it would be nice if we could codify that and ban the draft.

[-] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.world 23 points 4 months ago

You are required to sign up but they usually only can enforce it in ways such as applying for a driver's license or voter registration. Maybe more kids aren't applying for drivers licenses and therefore aren't signing up.

[-] ValenThyme@reddthat.com 19 points 4 months ago

if you never sign up you're excluded from a number of government jobs such as at the post office.

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[-] Got_Bent@lemmy.world 10 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

I wouldn't put it past the Republican party to bring conscription to the table. Probably with all kinds of exceptions and loopholes to either keep their own kids out of it entirely or guarantee cush domestic desk jobs to show how patriotic they are. Everybody else gets to line up with a rifle.

Edit: Well, while I was baselessly speculating, this happened to come up on Lemmy: https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2024/06/trump-world-mandatory-military-service-washington-post/

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[-] TheBananaKing@lemmy.world 55 points 4 months ago

Fully automated luxury war slavery

[-] PunnyName@lemmy.world 48 points 4 months ago

Fuck the draft. Dodge the draft.

[-] hardaysknight@lemmy.world 30 points 4 months ago

If you can dodge a draft, you can dodge a ball

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[-] dhork@lemmy.world 47 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Some folks inherit star-spangled eyes

Ooh, they send you down to war, Lord

And when you ask 'em, "How much should we give?"

Ooh, they only answer, "More! More! More!" Yo

[-] njm1314@lemmy.world 36 points 4 months ago

Seems like a pretty good Common Sense legislation really. You already have to register by law so making it automatic would be easier for all of us and avoid anyone getting in trouble for something stupid. I don't see a downside to this. I would like to see it apply to voting registration too however.

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[-] Copernican@lemmy.world 23 points 4 months ago

I'm for this. Don't vote for war mongers when you or your kids or grandkids could be drafted for war.

[-] archomrade@midwest.social 25 points 4 months ago

Unfortunately there are no non-warmonger candidates in r or d and voting third party is a vote for trump so I guess we're all fucked amiright

[-] shalafi@lemmy.world 17 points 4 months ago

Registration is already required,and has been for decades. This only automates the thing so people aren't breaking the law. Super simple stuff.

So I'm not sure what your point is?

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[-] masquenox@lemmy.world 10 points 4 months ago

Something tells me fragging (the original kind) might have a chance of becoming de rigueur again.

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