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I keep seeing this instance is overrun with tankies so hey, lets do an informal survey like I've seen on hexbear

respond with YES or NO in the first line of your comment and i'll tally everything in a couple of days, lets say I'll try and collect everything on the sunday the 9th (10+gmt sorry)

not sure thisll work, be nice, have fun

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[-] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmy.ml 10 points 1 year ago

No, i'm not a tankie, i wasn't even born yet in 1956 not to mention i'm not British.

[-] Objection@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 year ago

YES

My understanding is that a tankie is defined as someone who seeks to promote global peace, understanding, and equality, with nuanced views that incorporate marginalized and international perspectives, grounded in historical evidence.

That's how I see it used anyway.

[-] Samvega 9 points 1 year ago

NO. Communism is interesting, but I'm heavily anti-authoritarian.

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[-] Khrux@ttrpg.network 9 points 1 year ago

No.

This isn't my standard instance but I do take a look at it sometimes. I'm definitely very far left leaning, I don't have a label that clearly fits me but I'm probably close enough to anarcho-communism or syndicalism. I live in the UK so it's pretty common for my views to fall further left of the USA.

I'm not particularly good at actually adhering to my own views, infact I don't think I've ever done e anything substantial to bringing my ideals into reality. My dream would be for small federated housing / workers co-ops and unions to get a good handle in my area, and then have the stability to grow.

The crucial reason I'm not a tankie is that I actively oppose top down leadership structures, and I'm actually more against authoritarianism than I am against the right, but I feel that in my country, conservatism and authoritarianism are deeply linked, and a bottom up power structure would do more to actively oppose facism and power consolidation than a far left authoritarian regime.

In short, No. My principles may make me a commie, but I'm an anarchist first.

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[-] cerement@slrpnk.net 8 points 1 year ago

NO

I support their natural enemies, anarkiddies shall triumph!

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[-] Floey@lemm.ee 8 points 1 year ago

YES

At least if we go off the Lemmy definition. I don't self identify.

[-] johannes@lemmy.jhjacobs.nl 8 points 1 year ago

I havent figured out yet what a tankie is.

[-] mindbleach@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 year ago

Tribalists whose ingroup-uber-alles identity is any kind of leftism. The sort of person who would excuse unimaginable cruelty so long as it's done in the name of opposing "the west."

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[-] MxRemy@lemmy.one 8 points 1 year ago

No.

Maybe I'm way off the mark here but... I think the reaction to tankies seems very overblown. No one you could describe as a "tankie" is currently in charge of any of the countries/companies/organizations that are busy destroying the world right now, so I don't super understand why everyone's talking about them like they're at all a priority? The authoritarians that tankies are obsessed with are all either long dead, or totally unaware of their existence.

Maybe some people on the left are just trying to look at future dangers here, like tankies are gonna be "Bolsheviks Part 2", somehow come into power, and then purge all the anarchists or something. But didn't Bolsheviks actually have a lot of power and influence prior to the revolution? Tankies don't seem to.

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[-] AsterixTheGoth@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 year ago

No, I think?

I don't actually know what a "Tankie" is. I tend to try to steer away from labels; I consider them a form of intellectual laziness. People will use them to either try to gain a feeling of belonging by adopting a line of thinking shared by their peers, or they will use them to smear those who they have defined as "others" without consideration of why these "others" might hold opinions that they don't. Labels and label-based thinking lead to tribalism and division.

If you want to know what I think about something, ask with specifics. If you want to convince me of something, present an argument with reason and evidence, and be prepared for me to pick it apart and look for flaws. There is nothing I respect more than somebody who takes a comment I make and considers it, researches it and then comes back to me with a response, or presents me with a perspective that compels me to do the same. I find both depressingly rare.

[-] rockSlayer@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

I don't consider myself a tankie, because I'm an anarcho-syndicalist.

I've been called a tankie for suggesting that workers should organize tenant unions to kill the apartment bidding wars in NYC. I've been called a tankie for pointing out that their image of a tankie needs to almost have power to be any kind of threat worth warning against, and there are no tankies anywhere near power with the global rise of fascism. I've been called a tankie for asking someone to clarify what they meant by tankie. I've been told that scientific socialism both is and is not tankie behavior. The term is utterly meaningless. I've come to the conclusion that it's part of a 3rd red scare in an effort to sow division amongst the anticapitalist left.

[-] vritrahan@lemmy.zip 7 points 1 year ago
[-] Parabola@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 year ago

YES

If wanting to receive basic human rights (food, housing, etc.), attend education without being discriminated against for my income and mental condition, control my workplace, earn the full value of my wages, have a government actually controlled by the people, all while being politically educated in past socialist movements and their theory to achieve all these things, then I'm sure as hell am a tankie, and I don't care what online liberals say.

Stalin rules, by the way. ✊

[-] prole@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Why does Stalin "rule"? This is a question from a fellow "leftist."

Either ignorant, or you're just a really bad person. Just such a stupid fucking thing to say. Take a step back from the Internet and read a book. Saying "Stalin rules ✊" doesn't make you cool, it just makes you look like an idiot.

Stalin was a paranoid, murderous dictator responsible for the unnecessary deaths of countless millions of people. Or does it not count because he didn't murder them himself?

Can't wait to hear about how the holomodor wasn't his fault...

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[-] hash0772@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

You say you support authoritarianism, and then you say "have a government that is actually controlled by the people". ~~Are you stupid?~~

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[-] Nemo@midwest.social 7 points 1 year ago

NO

I've never even been called one erroneously.

[-] megane_kun@lemm.ee 7 points 1 year ago

NO

Neither do I self-identify as a tankie, I don't think anyone who'd identify themselves as tankies would think of me as one.

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[-] theywilleatthestars@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

Tankie originally referred to authoritarian communists, but over the past couple of years I've seen it referred to, like, anyone significantly to the left of the Democratic Party. Former suck, very much aspire to be part of the latter.

[-] Samvega 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I'm going to work hard to redefine 'Tankie' as someone who cosplays as a Decepticon, just so that political discourse becomes even more intolerably meaningless.

/s I'm not going to do this, it would take effort.

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[-] PedroG14@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 year ago
[-] juliebean@lemm.ee 6 points 1 year ago

i may or may not have a tanksona, but that doesn't make me a tankie.

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