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Reminder to switch browsers if you haven't already!


  • Google Chrome is starting to phase out older, more capable ad blocking extensions in favor of the more limited Manifest V3 system.
  • The Manifest V3 system has been criticized by groups like the Electronic Frontier Foundation for restricting the capabilities of web extensions.
  • Google has made concessions to Manifest V3, but limitations on content filtering remain a source of skepticism and concern.
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[-] COASTER1921@lemmy.ml 6 points 5 months ago

So maybe my experience is unique but websites don't always test with Firefox now and some simply don't work with it. I use it anyway out of principle but occasionally I need to open Chrome.

On mobile it's even worse. Firefox is stuttery on my Pixel 8 Pro and doesn't handle more than ~20 open tabs well. The nightly version fixes the stutter but crashes all the time (it's a nightly build after all so this is expected).

[-] Psythik@lemmy.world 5 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

This is just straight-up slander. I've been using Firefox since 1.0PR (so for 20 years now). It was a very rare occasion when a website wouldn't function properly, and almost never would a website completely break. I haven't had a single issue with a website in Firefox for over 5 years now. I would appreciate it if you could post some examples of some websites that "simply won't work with it", because I simply don't believe you.

Mobile is fine too. I have a bad habit of not closing tabs. It's gotten so bad that the tab count number is just the infinity symbol on my phone. Still don't have any slowdown issues on a Fold 3. Didn't have any on my OnePlus 6T, either, nor my LG G2, nor my Galaxy S3. Quit making shit up just to have an excuse to stick with a shitty browser.

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[-] ech@lemm.ee 6 points 5 months ago

Oh no! Wait, I don't use that shit because of shit like this.

[-] jaschen@lemm.ee 6 points 5 months ago

Are they going to do this on Edge? Please don't judge me. I love the "Continue on Mobile" feature.

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[-] pyre@lemmy.world 6 points 5 months ago

since people here are more tech savvy than i could ever be if like to ask what you guys think of Vivaldi, because i like it a lot. super customizable, has quick command search, side panel lets me use some websites like extensions, and workspaces help me organize especially with work... has anyone used it and can anyone tell me if waterfox or other forks are better and how?

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[-] ColdWater@lemmy.ca 6 points 5 months ago

Oh no, anyway

[-] HonorableScythe@lemm.ee 6 points 5 months ago

I'd be glad to switch back to Firefox, but websites straight up don't work on it anymore. That was the only reason I went to Chrome.

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[-] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 6 points 5 months ago

I use Firefox and Brave at work. I need a Chromium-based browser, and Brave's ad-blocker works, otherwise I would be Firefox only.

[-] kyle@lemm.ee 6 points 5 months ago

To my shame, I'm still deeply ingrained in the Google ecosystem. I settled on it like 8-10 years ago and I'm not sure how to dig myself out of this pit. More than Chrome, I heavily use Docs, Sheets, Drive, Wallet, YouTube, Gmail, I even have a Pixel (I hate how bloated Samsung is).

I've used Firefox a little for work because of the nice containers feature. Is Google Drive bad too? It's so easy to share things, I torrent a lot of books and I've shared with a bunch of friends, idk if there's an alternative that others could easily use.

[-] billwashere@lemmy.world 5 points 5 months ago

How does this affect browsers like Brave?

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[-] KonalaKoala@lemmy.world 5 points 5 months ago

I think LibreWolf is going to end up being the go-to browser at this rate.

[-] autotldr@lemmings.world 5 points 5 months ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


Other groups don't agree with Google's description, like the Electronic Frontier Foundation (EFF), which called Manifest V3 "deceitful and threatening" back when it was first announced in 2019, saying the new system "will restrict the capabilities of web extensions—especially those that are designed to monitor, modify, and compute alongside the conversation your browser has with the websites you visit."

Google, which makes about 77 percent of its revenue from advertising, has not published a serious explanation as to why Manifest V3 limits content filtering, and it's not clear how that aligns with the goals of "improving the security, privacy, performance and trustworthiness."

Like Kewisch said, the primary goal of malicious extensions is to spy on users and slurp up data, which has nothing to do with content filtering.

Google now says it's possible for extensions to skip the reviews process for "safe" rule set changes, but even this is limited to "static" rulesets, not more powerful "dynamic" ones.

In a comment to The Verge last year, the senior staff technologist at the EFF, Alexei Miagkov, summed up Google's public negotiations with the extension community well, saying, "These are helpful changes, but they are tweaks to a limited-by-design system.

For a short period, users will be able to turn them back on if they visit the extension page, but Google says that "over time, this toggle will go away as well."


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[-] TheBlue22 5 points 5 months ago

Thank fuck I switched to mozilla

[-] enbyecho@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

This post reminded me to try out Brave. It's based on Chromium but purports to block ads and trackers...

Anybody else use it?

Edit: Interesting. Anyone care to explain the downvotes? I know nothing about this browser other than it purportedly blocks Youtube ads, which are driving me nuts.

Edit2: Well shit: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brendan_Eich

I had no idea about this guy. Ok, so completely not an option.

[-] cyberic@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 5 months ago

My brother uses it, just remember to look through the ad settings. There was a toggle at one point to allow their approved ads or something like that.

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