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And in case you haven't been paying attention, the Trump fascists want to undo all that with Project 2025.
Of course they want no fault divorce gone. They want their spouses stuck with them and unable to flee from the insanity.
Yeah I actually came across this statistic in this article about those guys wanting to make divorce much harder, which linked to the study: https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2024/05/no-fault-divorce-gop-republicans-mainstream-podcast-dudes/
In addition to the men who are pushing these laws are the women who have bought into the same misogyny and support women being forced to stay in marriage. Frequently the same women who oppose abortion rights.
It is primarily men, but they wouldn't be successful without that support.
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There's no 'want' to it.
They already have. Idaho got away with criminalizing abortion, which means 2/3 of the states will do the same next session, just like how 2/3 of the states still allow for you to be paid $7 an hour.
In the absence of a true opposition party, the wolves are feasting.
"bUt DeMs SaMe!"
-some white kid trying to excuse themselves from their civic duty
That's the thing.
You used to be able to count on Democrats to fight for social issues, at least. The Dems we have now are only concerned with increasing their own wealth, and that was very well-evidenced by their response to the Roe vs Wade leaks. Do you recall their response? They used it to fundraise and did nothing else. ($80,000,000 was the cost of your rights to bodily autonomy, in case you're curious.)
And now 2/3 of the states will get away with criminalizing abortion within another year or two, tops.
I remember when, in his first SOTU, Joe Biden mocked the Defund The Police movement, and called for increased police funding, even though the police are overtly fascist in most of the country and we all had just watched them proudly execute a man in the streets.
Now he's sending more bombs to Israel.
If you're telling yourself the Dems are the answer, I think you're just asleep at the wheel here.
It's infuriating to listen to people talk about lack of divorce (in certain cultures, times, etc) thinking it means a successful marriage.
There's a comedian who did a bit that was something like "A lot of my friends have parents who got divorced. Mine should have but didn't. I think I had it worse".
Paraphrased horribly, but if someone recognizes this bit, please let me know because I've long since forgotten even though the gist of it has stuck with me.
Also infuriating is a certain psychologist saying "kids from parents that stay together do better", completely missing the point that there was dysfunction which led to divorce.
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I mean I recognize it, but as something I frequently say to my therapist. (They finally divorced when I was 24).
Many states will not allow a divorce if the woman is pregnant, it's a twisted cycle of abuse and control.
A study recently published in the Journal of the American College of Surgeons found that states that restricted abortion access from 2018 to 2020 had a 75 percent higher rate of peripartum homicide — people who were killed while pregnant or in their first year after giving birth — than states without restrictions. The same trend did not hold in homicide rates for men.
Just like the pieces of shit that rail about "No fault divroce destroying the family", Restrictions on the bodily autonmy of women leads only to death and misery, I refuse to call those people "pro-life" or "pro-family", they are simply anti-womens rights.
How is divorce a matter of consent?
Traditionally both parties had to agree to get divorced if there had not been some "grounds" for the divorce that could be proved in court. That's why the classic business for old timey private detectives was proving that their client's spouse was committing adultery in order to legally justify a divorce.
So women having rights killed an entire genre
Edit Noir is the genre
Well idk if I would say that, it was just a classic trope. Noir is very much alive and defined by not having any "good" charcters, just lots of shades of gray quasi heroes. "Nightcralwer", "Emily the Criminal" and "Girl with the dragon tattoo" movies are great examples of modern noir. That trope is just dated, but also still used in sci-fi like Blade Runner.
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Nah, PI work just became a lot more desk jobby between the stakeouts you end up doing
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Probably lowered the rate of dudes "accidentally" ingesting arsenic in their coffee too.
I was reading a book where people anonymously share confessions. And one was about a person who worked at a Hospice providing care. They shared a lot of old women, on their last days, would confess to murdering their husbands.
There's an ancient Greek story about a city where young women were killing themselves at an alarming rate, and the city eventually enacted a law where if a woman killed herself the body would be paraded through the streets naked before burial. After that law, the suicides dramatically went down.
The misogynistic interpretation of the author recording the story was that women were ashamed at the thought of being seen naked, even after death, and so this curbed the suicides.
My own interpretation is that it's hard to hide bruises on a naked body.
No one should be trapped in a situation where they feel the only option out is suicide.
My own interpretation is that it’s hard to hide bruises on a naked body.
Considering that the ancient Greeks literally allowed men to murder their wives under certain conditions, I'd say that seeing bruises on a woman's body would elicit no outcry amongst them.
Also... fuck ancient Greece. And fuck the Roman empire, too.
I was curious so I did a tiny amount of research and as it turns out, you're pretty much in line with the data.
Information on ancient Greeks beating their wives is pretty sparse and what little we have suggests that it was so common that it barely deserved mention.
Beat their wives, fucked their kids, and gave rise to the society we've inherited today.
Persia should have one at Thermopylae
Were there laws allowing wives to murder their husbands under certain conditions?
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What do you mean "fuck them", they don't exist any more...
But idiots who romanticize and glamorize them are.
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I had no idea there states that if you're female you can't get a divorce without consent. That's insane. I'm going guess they're all red states since they're big on not respecting women.
Why would the socialists oppose women's right to choose?
In US. politics, red refers to places with a (usually large) majority of Republican voters.
That's dumb. Probably shouldn't use it when talking online because its backwards from the rest of the world.
America is the only country that matters. Sorry.
Dear downvoters... I'm pretty sure the picture of a bald eagle in front of a US flag is a stand-in for "/s".
Maybe. Maybe not. The ambiguity makes it fun :3
It's the same for both persons In a marriage though
Sure, but when these laws were passed they were intended to keep women down. Just like women couldn't vote or have back accounts. The fact they still exist, along with more of our rights being reduced, shows the misogynistic intent.
The law in Missouri, for example, only bans pregnant women from seeking a divorce.
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Probably saw a decline in husband mysterious deaths too ^^
I mean, yeah. It would be harder to track, but desperate people do desperate things when the law makes it hard to leave.
Podcaster Tim Pool said no-fault divorce is “ruining relationships,” on an episode where he cites Jordan Peterson and jokes that, “maybe we would just be better if, I don’t know, women just had to wear red dresses and bonnets.”
I know what would actually make the world a better place, but I can't say it here.
And people hound me about how I'll die with cats and desperately regret not having a man to wash smelly socks for.
Marriage is psychological adrenalectomy.
Idk, I usually wash my wives dirty socks more often than she washes mine I'm pretty sure
My wife washes I hang and fold. team work makes for more sexy time.....
Laundry is irrelevant if it's on the first floor. I'll do everyone's but they gotta fold
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Cats are cool and so are you. Whatever works for you is the correct decision!
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Don't tell that to your local conservative party...
Or do, they don't care
Just female suicide rate? I'd like to know the difference in married women rates. The difference in rate should be even bigger.
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