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[-] RandomStickman@kbin.run 83 points 5 months ago

making the feature rely less heavily on user-generated content from sites like Reddit

Imagine selling out reddit/buying access to the comments for AI just to immediately unprioritise it

[-] a1studmuffin@aussie.zone 53 points 5 months ago

A new deal is being forged with 4chan instead.

[-] flambonkscious@sh.itjust.works 3 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

That would be awesome!

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[-] TexasDrunk@lemmy.world 27 points 5 months ago

No one could have seen this coming. Obviously LLMs absolutely completely understand the difference between people joking around with each other and authentic advice.

Sarcasm aside, Reddit does have some good information about niche topics. There's just currently no way for AI to understand the difference between dry humor and serious responses. I think the AI summaries are unhelpful anyway, but even if I didn't it's pretty obvious Google didn't think further than "Shove AI into it like a drunken prom night encounter".

[-] sudo42@lemmy.world 21 points 5 months ago

There’s just currently no way for AI to understand the difference between dry humor and serious responses.

There’s no way for humans to do this either. We invented an entirely new series of markers (emoticons, /s, etc.) at a vain attempt at doing just this and still fail.

[-] TexasDrunk@lemmy.world 10 points 5 months ago

It's definitely difficult over text unless you know someone.

[-] Jakeroxs@sh.itjust.works 7 points 5 months ago
[-] TexasDrunk@lemmy.world 7 points 5 months ago

His name is Dennis. Once you really get to know him you'll understand.

[-] errer@lemmy.world 73 points 5 months ago

Reid characterized the mistakes that won attention as the result of an internet-wide audit that wasn’t always well intended.

Oh yeah, there was a conspiracy to embarrass Google with off-the-wall questions like “how do I thicken pizza sauce?”

Why are these corporate schmucks unable to take any blame?

[-] BakerBagel@midwest.social 25 points 5 months ago

No audit is well intended. The whole ppint of an audit is to find duplicitous and fucked up shit.

[-] TexasDrunk@lemmy.world 21 points 5 months ago

Why are these corporate schmucks unable to take any blame?

Because they never have to.

[-] scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech 14 points 5 months ago

It wasn't us, it was the people who used it who really caused the failure.

[-] applepie@kbin.social 10 points 5 months ago

Ungrateful fucking peasants are not recognizing greatness?!!?

[-] OpenStars@discuss.online 11 points 5 months ago

Sadly, b/c their jobs literally depend on them NOT doing so, in today's corporate hellscape environ:-(.

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[-] gila@lemm.ee 32 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

https://archive.is/96Woj

The company made “more than a dozen technical improvements” to AI Overviews ...

... making the feature rely less heavily on user-generated content from sites like Reddit

So it prefers the results that Google normally deprioritizes? I guess we have that in common

[-] OpenStars@discuss.online 20 points 5 months ago

I almost wonder what Huffman is thinking right now - he could have been so very close to becoming a billionaire, managing the repository of human general technical knowledge explained simply, but he blew it by being a greedy piggy...

Not that he will ever admit that, even to himself.

[-] CaptObvious@literature.cafe 19 points 5 months ago

I don’t think Spaz is thinking at all. That was how Reddit imploded.

[-] OpenStars@discuss.online 13 points 5 months ago

His decision tree is like: I say yes, content creators say no, admin rights say yes tho, market ends up saying no tho, the end.

It seems like I've heard this story before somewhere lately...

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[-] CaptObvious@literature.cafe 4 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

I say yes
You say no
You say stop
And I say go, go, go….

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[-] DrElementary@lemmy.world 29 points 5 months ago

The AI bullcrap at the top, before actual search results, is what finally made me change my default engine to duckduckgo

[-] Lazycog@sopuli.xyz 5 points 5 months ago

Same, I have tried DDG every once in a while but kept going back to google. Now google search doesn't quite give me relevant results anymore and all the AI crap just takes all of their effort to work on search itself.

Been using DDG for a few weeks now for personal and work related stuff - quite happy with it.

[-] flauschke@feddit.de 4 points 5 months ago

I've fully committed to kagi now and don't regret it. The results are actually helpful again and even their AI features are better. The search summary does not seem to hallucinate at all

[-] Aussiemandeus@aussie.zone 2 points 5 months ago

My only gripe with duck fuck go is I don't allow access to my location and can never google (hehe) shit in my town without adding extra words for directions etc

[-] B0rax@feddit.de 16 points 5 months ago

You don’t allow location and are surprised that it does not know you location? Am I missing something here? Why is that surprising?

[-] JeffreyOrange@lemmy.world 8 points 5 months ago

Yeah what annoys me aswell is that I don't like to type anything into the search field so noone can steal my data, buttfuck go refuses to give me results that way

[-] silasmariner@programming.dev 3 points 5 months ago

What annoys me about cumslut go is that I like to put in fake searches to throw my FBI agent off the scent and it returns me random shit I don't really want

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[-] Arghblarg@lemmy.ca 28 points 5 months ago

What? Oh no, I had not written down the recipe for using gasoline to cook my spaghetti! Whatever shall I do?

[-] OpenStars@discuss.online 29 points 5 months ago

Step 1: add gasoline.

Step 2: add more gasoline.

Step 3: don't think about the bridge...

Step 4: what spaghetti?

[-] reev@sh.itjust.works 6 points 5 months ago

I wonder if that bridge has immortalized itself in AI history.

[-] OpenStars@discuss.online 6 points 5 months ago

I hope it lasts longer than modern AI tools themselves at this point. They have great potential, but... they cannot replace the (lack of) brains of a manager to be a magic bullet to cure all ill effects of greed, with as little effort put into deploying them as has been done so far.

not like this

(From the OG Matrix movie)

[-] reev@sh.itjust.works 3 points 5 months ago

They're also developing computer chips running on actual biological human brains if that helps the brain aspect

[-] OpenStars@discuss.online 6 points 5 months ago

Ironically, we keep being told (iirc?) that middle-management was going to be one of the first things to go with the advent of AI. Software was going to eliminate the need for it, allowing one person to manage many tens to hundreds (to thousands?) of people directly.

Instead, most companies - like big tech, and Boeing, etc. - seem to be going the opposite direction, ditching their actual workers who produce things while keeping the managers?

This does not seem to be going all that well for Google lately...

[-] GolfNovemberUniform@lemmy.ml 20 points 5 months ago

Ok good. Now remove that feature or at least add mandatory human review

[-] CaptObvious@literature.cafe 6 points 5 months ago

And slow down search even more?

[-] jaykay@lemmy.zip 4 points 5 months ago

Human review is NEVER going to happen. The amount of comments from Reddit and user queries is mind boggling

[-] GolfNovemberUniform@lemmy.ml 4 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

No I meant that the AI makes replies to most popular (or predicted to be popular) questions but a human has to review and accept it manually to push it to the search results. But that still won't fix everything. It's just AI that needs to die. That's it

[-] CaptObvious@literature.cafe 14 points 5 months ago

It’s an interesting concept. But right now, Google Search is the best argument in favor of Bing.

[-] JackGreenEarth@lemm.ee 25 points 5 months ago

Or DuckDuckGo, which uses the same index as Bing, but with more privacy

[-] CaptObvious@literature.cafe 15 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

DuckDuckGo is my default search tool. It’s great.

[-] BakerBagel@midwest.social 2 points 5 months ago

Maybe it is a firedox issue, but i have serious issues with location based searchs on DDG. Like, results in the next state over sort of bad.

[-] CaptObvious@literature.cafe 2 points 5 months ago

That may be a feature of DDG. In respecting privacy, it may be ignoring your location. Since I never let sites have access to location data if I can prevent it, I don’t know.

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[-] huginn@feddit.it 4 points 5 months ago

You think Bing aka Microsoft is not planning on this exact same folly?

[-] CaptObvious@literature.cafe 8 points 5 months ago

I’m sure they are. But they haven’t yet. And after this, they might at least borrow a page from Apple and make sure it works first.

[-] huginn@feddit.it 4 points 5 months ago

I mean... They have though. It's not in bing.com but "Microsoft copilot" is their newly rebranded Bing + AI search engine, which they're embedding directly into desktops. They've been doing the AI summaries longer than Google has afaik.

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[-] z3rOR0ne@lemmy.ml 5 points 5 months ago

Everyone remember to pollute your answers wherever you post them at least once a day.

[-] HowManyNimons@lemmy.world 7 points 5 months ago

The best way to avoid having your words used by an LLM is to mash your fingers with a mallet before typing. The resulting typographical errors will ensure that the AI rejects your text before using it for training.

[-] OpenStars@discuss.online 8 points 5 months ago

So... a nurmal Redhti usre then? :-P

[-] MonkderDritte@feddit.de 4 points 5 months ago

Well, cool. Now fix it.

[-] drwho@beehaw.org 4 points 5 months ago

You don't say.

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