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[-] RedEyeFlightControl@lemmy.world 202 points 8 months ago

This brings them to about mid 90's tech... They'll be able to make microwave ovens, tamagotchis, and a counterfeit N64 that runs a game called "Mushroom Plumber 3D"

[-] BeigeAgenda@lemmy.ca 66 points 8 months ago

I found the box art for Mushroom Plumber 64

Mushroom plumber

[-] Mrkawfee@lemmy.world 25 points 8 months ago

It's a me. Tovarich.

[-] evidences@lemmy.world 33 points 8 months ago

Fun fact about tamigotchis, a couple years ago I was looking up if they still made them and I ran across something talking about the tech in modern versions and apparently the newest version of them at the time was running a variant of the MOS6502 microprocessor. This is the same microprocessor that Commodore used a variant of in the Commodore 64.

[-] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 28 points 8 months ago

Are you saying we could have hooked a keyboard and TV to a tamagachi, and used it as a text editor?

I'm not sure why I'd want to do that.......but now I want to do that.

[-] Klear@sh.itjust.works 21 points 8 months ago

That kinda sounds like animal abuse.

[-] JovialSodium@lemmy.sdf.org 12 points 8 months ago

Not literally a tamagachi, but if you want to go down the super niche rabbit hole that'll include interfacing a TV and keyboard to a 6502 processor, there's a guy named Ben Eater who does a great job covering that stuff. eater.net or search his name on YouTube.

[-] AllNewTypeFace@leminal.space 6 points 8 months ago

No. The 6502 itself is probably the simplest CPU to be used at scale in home computers: it has only 3 registers, a handful of instructions (you don’t even get multiplication) and is made of around 3,500 transistors (less than half the number in the Z80). All the things that gave the C64, Apple II, BBC Micro, NES and such their recognisable qualities were provided by support chips used alongside the 6502.

6502s were used in a lot of simple electronics after general-purpose computing moved on. They used them in battery-powered pocket chess computers in the late 80s, for example, and I wouldn’t be surprised if cycle computers or microwave ovens contained them as well.

[-] Cocodapuf@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago

So you're saying it can't play doom?

[-] palordrolap@kbin.social 1 points 8 months ago

Well there was a game on the C64 called Quake Minus One...

[-] evidences@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago

Like is it capable of that sure, could you actually do that with a modern tamagotchi, probably not.

[-] 9point6@lemmy.world 4 points 8 months ago

I mean you could technically do it with any microprocessor if you've got enough time and patience, though in a lot of cases you'd need to essentially build a whole computer around it.

[-] mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago

you'd have to graft on a lot of IO that doesn't exist but probably. good project to show off on hackaday.

[-] kokesh@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago

That is some Matrix s..t right there

[-] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago

When I saw this reply, I thought you were talking about my post morphing into Macho Man Randy Savage as a dragon, just to stop a usa public shooting by throwing the shooter into the sun, and engulphing the entire universe in flames.........thus killing all of existance.

[-] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 18 points 8 months ago

My Pentium II back in the day ran Diablo, StarCraft and AoE. So way more than a Tamagotchi. Glorious Mother Russia bringing back the good old days...

[-] just_another_person@lemmy.world 16 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

AKSHUALLY (not sticking up for Russia here), it's mostly dependent on how much energy they want to waste. They could make massive dies of whatever if they can power it. Probably with oil. It'll never be up to par with "modern" tech, but this is one of those things that seems to unlock a modern society.

If they can source materials, and improve on the process to be competitive, it's another dumb fucking race that humanity has to endure.

[-] aBundleOfFerrets@sh.itjust.works 6 points 8 months ago

You are limited on frequency with older nodes, and while that often isn’t a huge deal, it can mean a lot for things like flight control computers in missiles and crap, forcing the use of expensive analog buffers (if that even fits the situation)

[-] just_another_person@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago

Nope, just the pulse. It's unfortunate but true. Be a bigger person and stand up for better options.

[-] aBundleOfFerrets@sh.itjust.works 5 points 8 months ago

What are you even saying? This comment doesn’t make any sense.

[-] kambusha@sh.itjust.works 15 points 8 months ago

"Dash through the Gulag, collect potatoes, and save the Motherland in Mushroom Plumber 3D!"

[-] RedEyeFlightControl@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago

YOU MUST CONSTRUCT ADDITIONAL VODKA STILLS

[-] ShittyBeatlesFCPres@lemmy.world 14 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

In fairness, that was a pretty solid era. It wasn’t peak tech but I’d be ok going back.

It was probably a mistake for society to advance beyond the era when computers weren’t super portable and phones were just “smartish.” Like that BlackBerry era where you could communicate and get news if you needed it but it was enough of a hassle that you usually just waited until you were at home or the office to get caught up.

[-] Krankite@lemmy.world 9 points 8 months ago

Sure but weren't they raiding washing machines to get chips for their tanks? This is a pretty big step to avoid embargos and pretty significant that they need to do it.

[-] Municipal0379@lemmy.world 7 points 8 months ago

And all the Furbys their little hearts desire!

[-] skillissuer@discuss.tchncs.de 45 points 8 months ago

this shit is ancient, 30 years old node and russians had access to smaller nodes anyway (90nm) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N_4R4X7AWtU this is situation from 2022, doubt it got much better, could even get a fair bit worse

[-] ozymandias117@lemmy.world 21 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

The design/manufacturing of a chip is separate from the lithography machine itself

This is the first lithography machine Russia has built. They’d be getting the 90nm ones probably from ASML

[-] skillissuer@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 8 months ago

they won't be getting anything from ASML because of sanctions, fabless is also out as TSMC also won't supply them with chips for the same reason

[-] ozymandias117@lemmy.world 5 points 8 months ago

Which is why they’re trying to make their own now

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[-] Fedizen@lemmy.world 10 points 8 months ago

people got to the moon on less.

[-] bruhduh@lemmy.world 9 points 8 months ago

You had us in the first half not gonna lie

[-] zzx@lemmy.world 8 points 8 months ago

Uh... They've definitely assembled more than just one lithography machine. Probably over 80 years ago. Is it just me or is that a weird headline?

[-] werefreeatlast@lemmy.world 6 points 8 months ago

Did they say where this machine is at? It would be cool to see if Ukraine's recently unleashed US weapons can reach that far.

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