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[-] MyOpinion@lemm.ee 237 points 5 months ago

It is hard to believe this moron has a chance of being president again. We are a doomed country.

[-] stevedidwhat_infosec@infosec.pub 113 points 5 months ago

Don’t let the media and talking heads convince you of anything.

There are a great majority of people who want nothing to do with Trump, his Russian bootlicking or any of his other xenophobic hate.

Just vote.

[-] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 48 points 5 months ago

But the system is rigged so that a relatively small minority of morons can fuck shit up for everybody else. So yeah, guys, vote like your life depends on it because it literally does.

[-] stevedidwhat_infosec@infosec.pub 18 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

And those of us who are voting and get elected will, and have been, continue to stop vote rigging, jerrymandering, and voter intimidation.

Voting doesn’t end at the end of the presidential election. It involves your local elections too. Especially anything to do with your local educational system.

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[-] nao@sh.itjust.works 27 points 5 months ago

It was hard to believe the last time…

[-] tooLikeTheNope@lemmy.ml 17 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

I don't know.

I'm perplexed honestly.

I live in italy and here too government took a steep turn to the right since last elections.

It is like the most roborantly bamboozling idiocy someone from a stage can scream the more he gets applauded as the folks' hero for speaking their unsung voices.

On the other hand if you try to build an organic and critical dialogue you only get yawned away as utterly boring.

I don't think it is the ones screaming from their stages being the morons, well not the most moron at least, but instead they are those who give their precious votes, hard conquered from their ancestors who gift them with a life in a democracy, to these unambiguously unmistakable frauds, and who hide in the self-obliviousness of the guilty conscience for the vote they have cast their incapability of admitting their own deep existential self-inadequacy.

[-] Zipitydew@sh.itjust.works 13 points 5 months ago

Lots of people are incredibly stupid. Many of those stupid people are also selfish and mean. It will always be easy to appeal to those people by blaming all their problems on others. Until science figures out a way to force on the empathy parts of our brains, we'll go through these cycles of stupid people cheering on fascism.

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[-] Imacat@lemmy.dbzer0.com 132 points 5 months ago

Fuck trump and all but he literally did not say he would stop all electric car sales. He said he would stop all sales of Chinese brand cars manufactured in Mexico.

Source: The speech linked by the NYT article that Gizmodo/jalopnik references

https://www.youtube.com/live/XGJwCUHVgc0?si=O_c0epZoYWO1Owf0

The “you’re not going to be able to sell those cars” line is about 32 minutes in.

[-] ryathal@sh.itjust.works 42 points 5 months ago

Articles like this are exactly how fake news gets traction.

[-] overload@sopuli.xyz 10 points 5 months ago

It's so damn annoying. I'm not sure how algorithms are supposed to suppress BS alarmist articles without being accused of bias either.

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[-] Veedem@lemmy.world 41 points 5 months ago

Thank you.

That Gizmodo article is HORRIBLY written up and there never actually mention the quote outside of the blurb beneath the headline so the lack of context had me questioning them. Pretty shitty reporting.

[-] hark@lemmy.world 23 points 5 months ago

Which is funny since Biden has the exact same position, which is why he expanded on Trump's trade war with China by upping tariffs on EVs to 100%. I highly doubt Biden would let China do the Mexico workaround either, if he can help it.

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[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 95 points 5 months ago

Please, free market capitalists: defend your hero.

[-] worldwidewave@lemmy.world 9 points 5 months ago

Gotta imagine there’s a free speech absolutist who doesn’t love this

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[-] Nougat@fedia.io 67 points 5 months ago

This is just naked corruption, making promises to the oil execs he's been trying to curry favor with, right? Because apart from that - the thing that might put more money in Trump's pocket - I can't fathom what the point would be.

[-] dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world 19 points 5 months ago

To "own da libz."

He's pandering to the section of his base who all drive lifted coal rollin' diesel trucks who all know that "everyone knows" electric vehicle owners are all avocado toast eating homosexuals who vote Democrat.

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[-] Zerlyna@lemmy.world 61 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Oh can’t wait to see Elon’s response to that. 🍿

[-] dhork@lemmy.world 93 points 5 months ago

Elon will donate a few mil to his campaign, and Tesla will end up being the only company allowed to sell them.

[-] Buffalox@lemmy.world 35 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

This will eat 80% of Tesla profits, so he will probably ask Tesla to hurry up with the $56 billion he think he is owed.
Tesla stock would plummet even faster than they have recently.

Then he will try to convince Trump to use SpaceX for his Space Force, and have Trump implanted with a chip from Neuralink so he can remote control him. 😋 And then blame any problems on the Jews.

[-] Nougat@fedia.io 16 points 5 months ago

That tracks.

[-] Cosmonaut_Collin@lemmy.world 10 points 5 months ago

I can't wait for Trump to be the first RC Human.

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[-] Maggoty@lemmy.world 57 points 5 months ago

That's a funny way to get the auto companies and unions in the three states Biden really needs to go all in on Biden.

I'm confused. Both of them seem to be trying to lose this election.

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[-] akilou@sh.itjust.works 45 points 5 months ago

The party of limiting personal freedom.

If I want to buy an electric car, why shouldn't I be able to?

[-] SPRUNT@lemmy.world 9 points 5 months ago

Because it takes profits from the oil industry, and we can't have that!

/s

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[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 41 points 5 months ago

I'm beginning to think Trump is just throwing things against the wall to see what sticks.

[-] ameancow@lemmy.world 20 points 5 months ago

I'm beginning to think he doesn't have values of his own and has discovered that he can easily keep dangling simplistic talking points in front of America's most ignorant and most vulnerable segment of simpletons and morons.

[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 8 points 5 months ago

I might take it one step further and say that these aren't Trump's ideas. These are fossil fuel industry talking points that get pumped through a rich network of right wing talk radio dorks and Brietbart style news feeds and Joe Rogan guests.

Trump and his ilk are just the guys who can turn a talking point about "nobody is buying electric cars" into a real policy of "nobody is allowed to buy electric cars from over the border".

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[-] dch82@lemmy.zip 12 points 5 months ago

Always has been… 🧑‍🚀🔫👩‍🚀

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[-] masquenox@lemmy.world 34 points 5 months ago

Oooh... I can just imagine the cognitive dissonance over on twitter reaching critical mass.

[-] Doxatek@mander.xyz 23 points 5 months ago

I don't like Trump either. But as others here have said he didn't say this. That's a quote from the article the quote from him says "You won't be able to sell those cars" not "I'll ban all electric car sales"

[-] dvoraqs@lemmy.world 21 points 5 months ago
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[-] Devcatdan@lemmy.world 19 points 5 months ago

Why are people downvoting this? Trump is a literal poison, but misinformation is misinformation. The author changed the meaning: "You won't be able to sell those cars, because they won't have EV incentives" NOT "because I'll ban them."

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[-] WldFyre@lemm.ee 17 points 5 months ago

"You won't be able to have an abortion, I never said I'd ban it, though!"

[-] BigMacHole@lemm.ee 22 points 5 months ago

That's called FREEDOM and FREE MARKET CAPITALISM!

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[-] Adulated_Aspersion@lemmy.world 18 points 5 months ago

A man of "freedom of choice" and "free market" I see.

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[-] Subverb@lemmy.world 16 points 5 months ago

How very "free market" of him.

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[-] TokenBoomer@lemmy.world 15 points 5 months ago

The car companies have already built the infrastructure for EV’s, this isn’t going to happen.

[-] DudeImMacGyver@sh.itjust.works 14 points 5 months ago

*convicted felon Donald Trump

[-] IHeartBadCode@kbin.social 13 points 5 months ago

Donald Trump says random bullshit he cannot deliver on, that will appeal to his most rabid supporters.

The Biden Tariffs have way more impact on total EVs sales than reducing the EV credit to $0. The tariff blocks $6k EVs from enter the US, the credits just knocks $7.5k off a $50k car.

Like I get that us here in the United States are wary of Chinese things, but let's all be honest, American car companies aren't going to produce a sub $20k EV anytime soon. LiFePO₄ batteries have been a thing for some time now, the excuse the batteries are the main cost of the car is faux argument that US makers just aren't ready to stop subsidizing their other vehicle platforms with EV sales.

Trump's arguments won't do shit no matter which side of the aisle you sit. The thing killing wide adoption in the US of EVs is the US EV makers.

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[-] LordOfLocksley@lemmy.world 12 points 5 months ago

God, now this makes it a difficult one.

On one hand a Trump presidency is awful, on the other hand seeing Elon Musk have a mental breakdown as he can no longer sell Teslas in America is almost worth while

[-] Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 9 points 5 months ago

Eh, it will never be accomplished anyway. Trump promised so much shit that never happened. Only some of his promises to rich people came true.

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[-] graymess@lemmy.world 8 points 5 months ago

Trump wants to ban all EV sales despite what Americans want.
Biden wants to ban China EV sales despite what Americans want.
About what we can expect from this stupid fucking election.

[-] enbyecho@lemmy.world 10 points 5 months ago

Biden wants to ban China EV sales despite what Americans want.

No. Biden wants to enact protectionist policies that increase the price of Chinese EVs. It's true that some Dems are suggesting Chinese EVs be banned, notably Sherrod Brown. There are actually some pretty good arguments for doing so.

But I gotta be honest, if paying a bit more for a cheap ass brand new car is the worst of your concerns... well, I suggest you pay closer attention.

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[-] CaptDust@sh.itjust.works 7 points 5 months ago

He's begged the oil industry to come up with a $1b donation for his "campaign", this is the reach around if they make it happen.

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