Man I hope we can pull together some traction this time around. FPP is the biggest impediment to progress IMO.
So long as the Liberals and Conservatives think there's a chance they can win a majority, they'll stave off any attempts to move to a proportional system. It's interesting that after the last election, I started seeing Conservative supporters, particularly in the West, start talking about electoral reform.
I don't know how many more hung parliaments we're going to need before the major parties give up the ghost. But there won't be any support from the Bloc, because a PR system would likely harm them. That pretty much leaves the NDP as the sole major Federal party that actually supports electoral reform. Who knows, maybe if the Liberals squeak through with another minority the NDP may be able to force the issue, but I'm not holding out much hope.
What drove me most crazy about Trudeau's rapid betrayal on this one is that the frigging liberals really would become Canada's "natural ruling party" on a PR system. Even at their weakest they've always held enough votes to have remained strong and relevant if we used PR. However they know they'd lose the majority, and they'd rather lose entirely almost half the time than have an almost unassailably strong hold on the country that requires them to work with others.
It's the only game the Liberal and Tory strategists know; swapping majorities with periods of hung parliament instability in between. It is possible that the CAS agreement with the NDP suggests a change in direction for the Liberals, but it's one thing to exchange some goodies in return for maintaining confidence, and quite another to move to a PR voting system that would make formal coalitions all but inevitable (as happened in New Zealand).
I would love to see conservatives take an interest in electoral reform. It's so often seen as a left issue because the NDP and Greens push for it, but the word "proportion representation" is as the name sounds. It treats all parties equally and has no bias to left or right.
As an Albertan if PR were to come here I could kiss the left ever winning goodbye because the NDP (centrist in Alberta) only has a chance when the right splits the vote. I'd still take it even if it meant my party wouldn't win because it's the fair thing to do.
Wouldn't you say that the real problem is that the entire system of government is designed around the concept of local representation, whereas the people actually want global representation?
We have come up with hacks like political parties to try and bolt global representation onto a system designed for local representation, but these are ultimately hacks. FPP is quite well suited to the original structure of the Westminster system, but is incompatible with the hacks we've introduced along the way. If we are adamant that we must keep this system of hacks, then adding more electoral reform hacks on top is a necessity to keep things functioning well.
But do we need hacks at all when we also have the ability to start from the ground up and establish government around global representation from the get-go?
I think you're on the right track. We do want global governance in the form of large scale cultural, legal, medical, communications, transportation, and social systems. And probably others things. But we also want our personal and regional interests represented.
Nobody likes FPTP except the party in power.
Now is the time. The Liberals are fading in the polls and staring at a bullshit 39% Conservative majority. If they’re ever going to be swayed, this is it.
Keep in mind we are years away from a federal election. At this stage I don't think polls mean much at all.
I wrote to my MP indicating my support. Not sure I expect anything from the Liberals, but it's still worth a shot.
My MP seconded the motion. It's great to see bipartisan support for this. Even amongst Conservative voters, who had the least support, it's still over 2/3 in favour.
Thanks for sharing this. I’m going to email my MP about this later today.
As someone who’s still upset by how the Liberals ended this discussion after 2015 and went back on their promise, I expect either the Conservative or Liberal Party to find a way to squash this initiative again.
That being said, I do still think there’s value in pushing for this change especially at this moment. The EKOS poll referenced on that site mentioned that 76% of Canadians support a citizens’ assembly. Given that, I think either party would have to be very careful in how they try to obstruct this change. Especially in the minority government environment we’re in.
After Trudeau went back on his promise I swore I wouldn't vote for him again, but the Conservatives are so painfully bad I will vote for whatever party is most likely to keep them out in my riding.
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