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In my experience lemmy was the most suggested alternative on reddit and then tildes, the only time i ever heard abou kbin was the day before the blackout with the subreddit ban and then during it.
I'd never heard of kbin at all until I actually signed up to a Lemmy instance.
I'd heard Lemmy mentioned somewhere before (I've searched for reddit alternatives a few times in the past as I got increasingly annoyed by their pushiness towards the app), but only really took notice of it a few days before the blackout when I saw it mentioned many times on reddit.
Kbin I think is really new, I've only heard it mentioned fairly recently, and I been exclusively using the fediverse for about a year now
I like the kbin UI and ergonomics a little more than Lemmy.world, but the underpinning tech isn't going to scale efficiently, being based on PHP. I have a sign on over there too. It's comfy, but intermittently unusable or unresponsive. So there are some teething pains here, but Kbin is also part of the fediverse, and will hopefully start opening up more federations soon. That should hopefully reduce some load and more users.
The more the Fediverse at large is able to draw off the Rexxit™, the more we all win.
Yeah, I only got an actual link to kbin during the blackout here on lemmy, it was surprising to hear they got so many people so fast. It's nice they did, i just don't remember seeing anything about them on the alternatives subreddit or anywhere else.
Kbin seemed to be pushed more on Mastodon than Lemmy was, during and in the run up to the blackout. Lots of people giving new things a go this week, even from places other than Reddit!
Oh, that makes sense then! mastodon, much like twitter is still a big mystery to me.
It's a whole new frontier! :D
That makes sense, from what I’ve seen kbin integrates with mastodon as well (I think you can even set it up so some mastodon hashtags get included in their versions of communities)
Yeah I think you're right. And they'll hopefully fix their tech issues soon so we can all be one big happy family again haha
Funny, I mentioned joining Lemmy on reddit and had someone go "join tildes, it'll be easier" and then I went to tildes and in the first comment chain about rexxit there was a guy like "now I know it's much harder to join tildes than Lemmy" and I didn't know what was going to be easier or whatever but I liked the federation idea so I came here lol
I did hear of Lemmy first, with immediate criticism about supporting the CCP and so on. The second alternative mentioned on Reddit was kbin which is where I went first.
Unfortunately kbin runs on PHP and you can really feel the site lagging at times, no clue why someone would port a stable Rust code base to this mess. lemmy.ml is lighting fast in comparison and has working federation.
I did also try sh.itjust.works as an alternative Lemmy instance (which would be nice as it blocks lemmygrad.ml), but it's in Canada and I'm in Europe, so the latency is noticeable.
So now I'm here, oh well.
I found Lemmy through Reddit because of the protest. If anything, it works.
Me too! And then I promoted it myself on some of the subs I'm a part of.
Same thing for me. But I mostly lurk on reddit. I'd like to make an effort to post here though!
You can promote it all you want on reddit, just always be polite and not obnoxious in any way or form. Not saying that you personally would be, but speaking in general terms too much energy into convincing people to come here might have a negative effect on other people's motivation.
This! if I see people ask for alternatives I will recommend them, but I'm currently not going out of my way to force it down anyone's throat.
I found it on Reddit and seen it around, it‘s spreading. Might write some comments myself too, as long as I still have Apollo to do so; so far I am liking it here.
er, nothing? I found out about lemmy from reddit
Lemmy development really needs another couple weeks or a month. There are over 100 instances peering and it's really pushing the database systems hard with the 100,000 users already. Database tuning and query optimization in the code is the order of the day. I also think some of the new front-end apps for web and smartphones would help.
I promoted the shit out of it right before the blackout. Only got banned from one subreddit. Who cares, not like I'm going back.
Redditors in general just aren't that into lemmy. Most redditors come here expecting to find a 1 for 1 replacement pre-warmed with millions of users and brimming with reddit culture.
Not having an algorithm to tell people what they want to see is a bigger impediment to attracting users than most people realise.
Additionally, I think mods are reluctant to direct users to any other community as they will give up lordship of their own fiefdom. Sorry, I acknowledge that I have probably an unfairly dim view of mods. I'm sure some are amazing, but certainly many are self-obsessed power trippers. They act in their own interests to preserve control rather than acting in the interest of the community.
I acknowledge that I have probably an unfairly dim view of mods. I’m sure some are amazing, but certainly many are self-obsessed power trippers. They act in their own interests to preserve control rather than acting in the interest of the community.
You're not alone. I absolutely detest Reddit mods for this. I only hope Lemmy doesn't turn out that way for what I consider to be egregious acts of injustice when I participate in good faith.
Pirate family on reddit exposed me to the wonders of lemmy, so at the very least piracy mods are based. Indefinite black outs too instead of that weak 2 day protest.
We should make a community on Lemmy about promoting Lemmy on reddit. We could do something like an AMA with people talking about Lemmy. I don't see how they could stop us. If they ban us it's just more threads about how we got banned for talking.
There is afaik: r/lemmymigration
Looks like that subreddit is being run by people who are obsessed with kbin and don't actually support lemmy. But there are plenty of upvoted comments in support of lemmy. We should try to take that over to provide a better tutorial for redditors who are thinking about moving.
I think that's cause r/kbinmigration got banned and they got moved to r/lemmymigration, the support is more so supporting both while sympathizing how kbin's subreddit got banned which i think could be why there isn't that many posts of supporting lemmy
Yeah I see that but why they gotta hog Lemmys name if they don't actually like it.
I am trying to spread it on reddit but I am just a drop in the sea
Many drops make a puddle
I'll join the drops
I dont think it's againts rules, I found Lemmy because of Reddit.
Nothing so far.
The automod post I have set up at r/edc links to the sopuli.xyz/c/edc version.
At r/knives, we have both the lemmy and squabbles versions linked.
Neither myself, or the mods I comoderate with at the knives sub have faced any issues. This could change, but as long as you aren't spamming the hell out of it, they aren't coming after mods, or users doing it here and there.
There was the new sub, r/lemmymigration, that got pulled down then reinstated after backlash though, and the person running that got banned for a bit. There's also been reports of anti-protest mods requesting, and getting, senior mods removed in their favor. All of which is bullshit that merits huffman getting kicked in the nads, but it was expected.
Don't think it's against the rules but people will be annoyed if you just throw Lemmy into every conversation. Just spread the word where it's motivated.
I believe a coordinated and directed action could work well. Obviously random spam would just annoy people but the vast majority still hasn‘t heard of Lemmy yet and if we manage to get to them at least once, would be ideal. We could target the largest subs that are open currently and either put up a comment on a hot post and use our manpower to upvote the comment to the top, or make new posts which are more likely to be removed.
None of the Mod posts regarding the Blackout mentioned Lemmy as far as I‘m aware
Rumor has it they banned a lot of mods and communities for encouraging exactly that to their subscribers, so it was considered quite risky.
As the others have mentioned, I found out about Lemmy through multiple posts on Reddit. So at least at the time, a few days back, mentions of Lemmy were not being blocked / banned.
About promoting now: I think what would be better is if the supportive sub mods at Reddit made a community (or sublemmy, or whatever it should be correctly called) here first, and then posted a link to it on their blackout page on Reddit.
All that being said I am not sure I want a lot of the existing Reddit horde to invade Lemmy, but I guess I can't have my cake and eat it too.
I created https://lemmy.ml/c/azcardinals and promoted it on /r/azcardinals, (the only sub i am going to miss for gameday threads etc), and 99% of the comments were just talking about how stupid all these protests are and how the reddit app is fine and its the only app they ever used. Some of them didn't even know their were 3rd party apps. 🤷♂️
A vast majority of users seem to not care. Like at all. Obviously if those people have only ever used the relatively new reddit app they are pretty casual and new users. I really think that is the disconnect here. /u/spez sees that reddit has exploded in the last 5 or so years and those numbers are a quick payday if he can monetize quickly. But the OG power users that created meaningful content and moderated subs are leaving (or honestly left years ago). The platform will become (more) recycled tiktoc reposts and reposted tweets with toxic, useless comment chains. And maybe it will thrive as a business with that type of traffic, but that wasteland is not somewhere I want to be.
as One person put it if the people who actually make the good content leave then the lurkers will follow!!!!!!!
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I also came here from suggestions on reddit. I don't think it's hard to find for anyone sincerely looking for an alternative.
I found out about lemmy from r/EDC where they mentioned in their B.O. post they would be at https://sopuli.xyz/c/edc
here's the post: https://www.reddit.com/r/EDC/comments/145fxdb/reddit_is_killing_itself/
Hey :)
Welcome to lemmy. I'm the asshole mod that made the post lol.
Hey there :)
But why "asshole"? Almost every sub posted a similar thing and I see nothing wrong with that post unless I'm missing something 😝
Also curious, did you run into my comment by chance or did you actually get pinged when I mentioned the EDC community?
Just happened across it lol
You know how reddit is though. Any moderation is going to draw ire from someone. Since I decided to be as transparent as possible about how I moderate and why I make the decisions I make, more people saw the moderation, so there were more "someones" to get annoyed lol.
A couple of the automod posts had some folks get nasty, though I removed those once the initial two day no activity protest was over. I could have just bailed and let reddit replace me eventually, but I'm not able to do that, ethically. I made a commitment, so I'll make sure to find at least one mod to replace me next month before I stop moderating entirely.
I'll still hang in to lend advice to the new guys and make sure they aren't just going to trash the sub, but then I'm out entirely
thrilled that you are here!
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