Charges for water?
Do they disclose the cleaning fee after checkout or right in the beginning? What about the convenience fee?
Are Texas prisons run by Ticketmaster?
Americans have a punishment boner when it comes to the legal system. They don't want to prevent crime or improve society. They want the bad people to suffer.
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Texas prisons are run by someone even worse than Ticketmaster.
They are run by Texas.
Well, Texas loves private prisons, so many aren't run by the state. This is another disgusting example of how libertarians get it wrong.
I'm definitely no libertarian, but I do have one quibble with this - entirely private prisons are actually very little of the prison space in the United States. However, government run prisons do hundreds of millions of dollars in business with private vendors for things like the commissary and healthcare and phones &c., and all those businesses gouge taxpayers and inmates for substandard goods and services, because they're able to negotiate sweetheart contracts with government bureaucrats who don't give a shit and get lobbied like crazy (vendor salesperson: "Oh, your annual salary is only what? Ha, I've gotten commission checks higher than that! Let me get the tab for our lunch today.").
So it's a bit complicated but at the end of the day underfunding government services and throwing all of our responsibilities for things like taking care of our prisoners to for-profit companies is what's caused all of this, so the solutions to these problems aren't going to be coming out of a libertarian playbook imo.
They say that prisoners have access to tap water, but the prisoners say that tap water is crap.
This could all be solved by, ya know, having potable tap water by fixing some of our shit infrastructure.
Our treatment of prisoners is a disgrace.
Prisoners are being charged for water?
Yes, because the tap water in their cells often isn't fit to drink.
What, how???
The tap water in many US towns isn't fit to drink, let alone prisons.
how is texas allowed to exist as a state, they are seriously so inhumane and backwards that it's baffling
The price of bottled water went up 50% in prison commissaries across Texas last month. The controversial move has two state agencies pointing the finger at each other as inmates struggle to endure an entrenched and deadly heatwave in facilities without air conditioning. The state raised the price from $4.80 per case (24 bottles) to $7.20 per case on June 27. Commissary vendor Royal Pacific Tea Company requested to raise the prices in March even though it contract was incomplete. The prices were negotiated by the state comptroller's office and appear to be approved by the Texas Department of Criminal Justice.
“I actually begged him not to [drink the tap water],” said Amy Aguilar, whose loved one is at TDCJ’s Ferguson Unit. Her significant other — whose name she asked TPR to not use — has described the water as “rancid” smelling. And she said she was concerned about the quality. “Do you smell the sewer?” Aguilar said she asked him, “And he goes, 'you kind of just smell it all. It's just this big ole rich mix of rancid smell.' ” Water quality in prisons nationwide have been characterized as very low, due to the age of the facilities and the often remote locations.
Of course, for them, prisoners are subhumans, sigh.
Royal Pacific tea company sounds like slave traders. No Surprise they are taking advantage of the situation.
Is Texas now competing to be more or diseutopian than North Korea because it's certainly seems like that appears to be the goal.
Jesus fucking christ, what a hellhole.
This is what happens when you put for-profit companies in charge of anything and everything.
Peak Texas move.
They have to pay for water?
This is about bottled water at the commissary, but
Because of the ongoing heatwave TDCJ guards pass out glasses of cold water each day, and TDCJ has pointed out the men have access to tap water. But many current and former inmates have expressed concern about the water quality of the aging prisons — many older then 50 years.
“I would never drink the water at the tap,” said Don Aldaco, a recently paroled man who spent 24 years in various TDCJ facilities. “I would always get a piece of a sheet and I would tie it on the actual spigot, like a filter. I would have to change it like every other day because of all the rust and all the crud coming out.
Other current inmates commented on the smell of tap water in specific facilities resembling sewage. A TDCJ spokeswoman called the claim false.
“I actually begged him not to [drink the tap water],” said Amy Aguilar, whose loved one is at TDCJ’s Ferguson Unit. Her significant other — whose name she asked TPR to not use — has described the water as “rancid” smelling. And she said she was concerned about the quality.
“Do you smell the sewer?” Aguilar said she asked him, “And he goes, 'you kind of just smell it all. It's just this big ole rich mix of rancid smell.' ”
Water quality in prisons nationwide have been characterized as very low, due to the age of the facilities and the often remote locations.
e; this is over a decade old now, but this bit from a documentary where they check out a convention for prison vendors gives you an idea of how much money's going on behind this whole evil system
8th Amendment says what?
Excessive bail shall not be required, nor excessive fines imposed, nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted.
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